No need to make it, just grab it off the shelves.
Posted on 08/14/2018 10:36:38 PM PDT by Innovative
Scientists have found a rapid way of producing magnesite, a mineral which stores carbon dioxide. If this can be developed to an industrial scale, it opens the door to removing CO2 from the atmosphere for long-term storage, thus countering the global warming effect of atmospheric CO2. This work is presented at the Goldschmidt conference in Boston.
Project leader, Professor Ian Power (Trent University, Ontario, Canada) said:
"Our work shows two things. Firstly, we have explained how and how fast magnesite forms naturally. This is a process which takes hundreds to thousands of years in nature at Earth's surface. The second thing we have done is to demonstrate a pathway which speeds this process up dramatically"
(Excerpt) Read more at phys.org ...
You'll have to define "excess" carbon dioxide. Most of the carbon dioxide that was in the atmosphere has already been locked into rocks like limestone and chalk, or petroleum as the result of biological processes. The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere used to be about ~2500 parts per million. Natural processes took most of that away until during the last ice age it was down to 180ppm, so low that plants could barely use photosynthesis. (Photosynthesis stops around 150 ppm CO2, and everything dies except the microbes living deep underground or on the sea floor.)
Warming up from the ice age and the entire industrial revolution has put enough CO2 into the atmosphere to be at about 400ppm. That's not "excess", that's barely even a safety margin. I'd consider the minimum safe range to be at least 1000ppm.
It is a stupid AND dangerous idea, AND a colossal waste of money -unless- one accepts the idea that carbon is a greenhouse gas.
And if as many of us believe, it is not, then what are the effects of scrubbing it out of the atmosphere?
And most human geoengineering has been one disaster after another. The asian carp was introduced here as a foodfish. It’s a pest now. Lake trout were dropped into Yellowstone lake as a sportfish by someone to create a fishery. That devastated the native and historic trout population in the lake. We will never stop the python invasion of the everglades. Escaped domestic pigs gone feral are a menace in Texas and cannot be stopped.
The Soviet Aral Sea diversion project was quite a success, if you wanted to destroy the Aral sea that is.
The Salton Sea disaster in California was pretty cool too.
And the Kudzu plant, also known as the vine that ate the South, was introduced as an ornamental plant and is impossible to stop.
The early farming techniques and killing all the buffalo gave us the dustbowl.
The atomic bomb-like California wildfires are the result of one intervention after another, finally ending in complete willful decision to end all management and logging that created fuel loads never seen since Europeans stepped off the boat.
So basically, when someone announces they have a product that they can use to change the composition of earth’s atmosphere, they should be slapped back to their senses, and have their computer smashed with a sledgehammer.
Astounding hubris and moronicness. They cannot point to a single experiment that proves the carbon hypothesis. And now they want to strip away all the carbon they can.
Utter insanity.
The new slurry...
Trees and plants need CO2!
Too easy. Too inexpensive. Too useful.
Plus plants also create O2 which is useful to animals and humans, so that will interfere with their population reduction fantasies.
Complete nonsense.
Sure, it can be done, and even assuming there IS too much Carbon Dioxide (there is not) in the atmosphere, the energy input into the various necessary chemical reactions would release even more CO2 into the atmosphere. Their process requires polystyrene, which is made with much nastier chemicals than CO2, and polystyrene is one of the substances that the lefties are trying to get banned worldwide.
I take it back. It isn’t complete nonsense.... It is complete idiocy.
I have Ice-9 in the garage somewhere. Seems to me there were some instructions too.
So, what do you do with all the magnesite once you’ve produced it? And what are the energy costs and environmental impacts of mining all that magnesium? And how do you turn the magnesite back into CO2 when you discover the negative impact of sequestration (e.g. global cooling)?
Trees ...
#15. Anything the LEFT says is “excessive CO2”.
No need to make it, just grab it off the shelves.
oh yippie- so instead of the atmosphere having 0.00136% CO2 due to man- it will now have 0.00126%— Gosh- we can all rest easy knowing we just saved the planet!
We do NOT need to do Anything about the climate- We can’t do anything- CO2 is NOT driving climate change- CO2 rises only after temperatures rise- that is a fact- CO2 rises hundreds of years after temperatures rise- proving that CO2 does NOT cause climate change- Ice core samples prove this over and over again-
It is a complete lie that man is causing climate change and a complete lie that man can do anything to change the global climate one iota-
The goal of climate alarmists is NOT to ‘fix climate change’ but rather to bilk trillions and trillions of dollars from the gullible
Reminds me of this:
The Simon-Ehrlich Wager describes a 1980 scientific wager between business professor Julian L. Simon and biologist Paul Ehrlich, betting on a mutually agreed-upon measure of resource scarcity over the decade leading up to 1990. The widely-followed contest originated in the pages of Social Science Quarterly, where Simon challenged Ehrlich to put his money where his mouth was. In response to Ehrlich’s published claim that “If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000”—a proposition Simon regarded as too silly to bother with—Simon countered with “a public offer to stake US$10,000 ... on my belief that the cost of non-government-controlled raw materials (including grain and oil) will not rise in the long run.”
Simon challenged Ehrlich to choose any raw material he wanted and a date more than a year away, and he would wager on the inflation-adjusted prices decreasing as opposed to increasing. Ehrlich chose copper, chromium, nickel, tin, and tungsten. The bet was formalized on September 29, 1980, with September 29, 1990 as the payoff date. Ehrlich lost the bet, as all five commodities that were bet on declined in price from 1980 through 1990, the wager period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon%E2%80%93Ehrlich_wager
[[I think before we do any of this we ought to make sure that CO2 is a problem.]]
It isn’t- they know damn well it isn’t- ice core samples prove it isn’t- as does the fact that for 16 years CO2 rose steadily (yet still only amounts to a tiny tiny fraction of the atmosphere), but temperatures didn’t budge- And there is no problem- climate changes- period- man isn’t to blame- so there is nothing to fix- there is no problem. ‘Man-caused climate change is a colossal scam- read climatedepot.org - they have a ton of actual science proving man is not causing climate change
This is a potentially dangerous scam.
Anybody that believes any of this shit is an idiot to be avoided. Don’t like my take bite me.
Same thought only you beat me to it........
Scientists find way to make mineral which can remove CO2 from atmosphere and totally end oxygen production - it is well known that oxygen is corrosive when combined with hydrogen ...
The smarter they think they are, the dumber they act.
This is NOT great news.
First, nobody knows that high atmospheric CO2 concentrations are bad. Where is the proof? It doesn’t exist.
Second, say you remove 1/2 the atmospheric CO2. What is to say the oceans won’t just adjust to re-create it. So you still wast ungodly amounts of money chasing your tail.
Third, and most terrifying, what are the unintended consequences of this process. This is a disease in search of a cure. Now we implement a “cure” and who is to say it doesn’t create a bunch of problems.
No, this is completely asinine. Money is better spent adjusting to natural changes in planetary climate than this kind of stupid jackassery.
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