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Why Your State Should NOT Legalize Weed
Barbwire ^ | August 15, 2018 | Larry Tomczak

Posted on 08/15/2018 9:06:53 AM PDT by fwdude

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To: fwdude

“Quail!!” “Pull!!” Get your limit.


121 posted on 08/15/2018 10:40:49 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Windflier

If Marijuana or other controlled substances are legalized,
the unemployment rate will sky rocket.

>> Many judges will be out of work

>> Many court bailiffs will be laid off

>> Many court clerks will be laid off

>> Many Cops who arrest pot smokers will be idle

>> Many Police personnel processing paper work will be idle

>> Many Lawyers on both sides..prosecutors and defense will be without work

>> Many prison guards will be out of work

>> Many catering service businesses serving prisons will be out of business

>> Workers in construction will have less prisons to build and maintain

>> Electric utilities will suffer less sales from reduced prison populations

>> the huge accident insurance industry & auto repair industry depends on drug addicts, alcoholics and opioid abusers.

Should we keep paying taxes to support all of above?


122 posted on 08/15/2018 10:41:36 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/Pence 2020)
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To: chris37
I want to show my brother this video, but he has not watched it yet. His alcoholism is not as severe as the man in the video, but he has told me that he’s had DT’s before, so it’s pretty bad.

I don’t know why I never became an alcoholic, because my dad was just a total lush, but he was also an illegal drug user too.

You've just proven the biggest point about ANY addiction - it isn't the drug of choice. It's the person.

123 posted on 08/15/2018 10:42:22 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: raybbr

Bingo— our Socialist Democrat friends... all of them on public “relief” for their “medical” problems. To include-— “involuntary obesity” that isn’t related to a genetic condition. Food meet mouth repeat... all day and night. Increased by adjunct helping agents, non-prescriptive.


124 posted on 08/15/2018 10:43:37 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

So you consider it is the government’s job to force a certain lifestyle on us?

Disclaimer...I have never used anything illegal, and at age nearing 80 do not intend to start now.


125 posted on 08/15/2018 10:44:11 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/Pence 2020)
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To: fwdude
"So, you would abolish all speed limits? Freedom, right?"

Dumb.

126 posted on 08/15/2018 10:44:40 AM PDT by mlo
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To: dware
As mentioned previously, almost 25 years of use have resulted in zero mental or psychological issues. I am, for the most part, a well adjusted, middle aged, successful white collar manager making decent money, paying taxes, contributing positively to society, including being a donor to FR, all in the face of so-called "research".

Yep - seconded.

127 posted on 08/15/2018 10:45:09 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: fwdude
New Cartels, same as the old Cartels.

Like I said, it's entirely clear you are firmly behind the mexican cartels. Screw the ones that are helped BIGLY by legalization, right? Screw actual Americans. We'd rather have the mexican cartels being helped.

128 posted on 08/15/2018 10:45:52 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: John S Mosby

I don’t agree with the clinical definition. I don’t think it’s accurate.

I don’t believe in the term “psychological addiction” either. I think it’s just an excuse TBH.

But yes, my definition of addiction is formed from my own experiences. I was a drug user for 23 years, and an actual addict to a drug for about 3-4 years total, which occurred near the end of that 23 year period.

I also quit smoking cigarettes when I was 25 ( 47 now), and that surprisingly took one try along with a box of nicorette gum to help. I was a two pack a day smoker at the time.

I would describe cigarettes as mildly addictive, but certainly habit forming. But even in this case, a cigarette smoker must decide that he wants to be free, and that he is willing to suffer the pain of becoming free, or he will not be free.

But certainly the pain of quitting cigs does not put one in the same place as the pain of quitting Xanax, so I cannot value them as the same. Cigarettes are an easy one.


129 posted on 08/15/2018 10:46:11 AM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: Sparticus

The whole pot thing is highly conflated and in many cases it’s a scam ultimately by liberal politicians. The obfuscation is just as bad as the healthcare/health insurance debate. Most people confuse the issue.


130 posted on 08/15/2018 10:47:18 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: fwdude

All, all, of my psych text books which are left leaning in morality never recommended marijuana and they are still being published although I have not seen the most recent versions. The far left knows the damage and it is probably part of the plan along with opioids to destroy our nation.


131 posted on 08/15/2018 10:48:13 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: fwdude

Yah right, and there’s no cost to alcohol addiction or tranquilizer addiction or porn addiction or any other addiction that somehow slips through the keep society working ethic. The hypocrisy over demonizing cannabis and hard drugs while going blind over other forms of addiction equals the circus of hypocrisy and double standards the left hands us 24/7. The war on drugs has been a shrieking failure and its profits have gutted the ethics of supplier and transshipment countries around the world. Of course, our CIA, running drugs or providing protection for those who do in order to generate black ops budget funding is a honking fact of life that conservatives fall asleep over.


132 posted on 08/15/2018 10:48:30 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Yep - seconded.

The prohibitionists continue to spout their ignorant propaganda because they have never actually had ANY experience with marijuana. They believe the BS, and are completely closed minded that they might be wrong.

133 posted on 08/15/2018 10:48:48 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: fwdude

Yah right, and there’s no cost to alcohol addiction or tranquilizer addiction or porn addiction or any other addiction that somehow slips through the keep society working ethic. The hypocrisy over demonizing cannabis and hard drugs while going blind over other forms of addiction equals the circus of hypocrisy and double standards the left hands us 24/7. The war on drugs has been a shrieking failure and its profits have gutted the ethics of supplier and transshipment countries around the world. Of course, our CIA, running drugs or providing protection for those who do in order to generate black ops budget funding is a honking fact of life that conservatives fall asleep over.


134 posted on 08/15/2018 10:49:01 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: cuban leaf

Admirable discretion. Not achievable by the more susceptible weak minded of our society. Congratulations.

No one who has seen other posts from me even “get” where am coming from-— that it is a “freedom loving” Constitutionalist, from the perspective of the necessary ingredient— personal responsibility and wise laws backed by intelligent will of the People. What one generally gets is... hey man... it’s benign. When a lifetime of clinical work with major experts in many fields... proves that it is not. But that will never stop an addict who has to justify behaviour— to protect themselves if no-one else. Cuban leaf ... in moderation... and Single Malt Islay in combination post meal.


135 posted on 08/15/2018 10:49:21 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

I know that I would lose a clinical debate, but there is no point in debating things that don’t matter or simply aren’t true.

I have the practical knowledge and experience of actually being the thing discussed, and being on both sides of that thing.

No clinic ever helped me, or anyone that I knew, and there were many that I knew.

The help came from the spirit and Jesus, but no church was involved.

The root cause of this problem is in the spirit, and the solution is also there.


136 posted on 08/15/2018 10:50:42 AM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: shanover
The obfuscation is just as bad as the healthcare/health insurance debate. Most people confuse the issue.

You probably wouldn't think so after watching a loved one who is plagued with multiple seizures a day, go on to live a normal, seizure free life while using pot. It's amazing, really, the benefits that the prohibitionist movements are keeping from those who suffer debilitating effects without it.

137 posted on 08/15/2018 10:51:47 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: fwdude

Here is candidate Trump speaking favorably about medical marijuana and leaving legalization to the states =>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWIQhDbs1g8

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President Trump supports the STATES Act, which leaves mj legalizaion to the States =>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M53XLBd54Y

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President Trump has done more to facilitate legal pot in America than all FReepers combined, and more than any President, including Obama.

Now let’s hear you prohibitionists snark on President Trump. If you dare.


138 posted on 08/15/2018 10:51:59 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: fwdude

If a state wants to declare cannabis illegal on its own I don’t have a problem with it even though I believe cannabis should be legal for every adult to have, use & to grow if they wish.

States rights are states rights even if I disagree with a given state’s decision.

I am a thankful cannabis patient here in Florida & expect a ballot measure for full recreation cannabis use to be on the ballot for 2020. If it is & isn’t written poorly I expect it will pass.


139 posted on 08/15/2018 10:52:15 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: John S Mosby
Single Malt Islay

Certainly something we can agree on. Make mine Lagavulin 16.

140 posted on 08/15/2018 10:53:00 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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