Posted on 08/15/2018 9:06:53 AM PDT by fwdude
Well your doctors told you so... so it must be. LOL. No doubt they are out of date, and certainly out of time most of the time.
The results of one’s (solitary) “experience” are not clinically significant. Period. But a nice story nevertheless, anecdotally.
FRiend, glad you are doing right. The studies are not “so-called”. They are the major reason marijuana/THC is listed as Schedule I (in the US and the equivalent in Europe/UK). Psychoactive, clinically significant in sufficient statistical peer reviewed basis— to justify said listing.
Like the ad’s say (disclaimers)— “your experience may vary” .Yesss indeedy! Good fortune. Stay clean.
“And the DU trolls come out of their cover.”
If you consider people that disagree on this issue to be “DU Trolls”, then you have no argument strong enough to push.
Frankly I’ve heard more DU reasoning by the people wanting to keep this illegal.
*They want a Federal ban, a waste of money, time, and a granting of power to the Feds they should not have inside the various states.
*Their reasoning is that they and the state knows what’s good for you as their rationale.
*Character assassination: The “dope smoking pothead loser” trope, while the backwoods hick drinking his moonshine or guys down at the local watering hole, or the image of their dad drinking a six pack and smoking a cig out on the boat or while hunting is seen as “all-American”. They are all doing the same thing, but one is “evil”?
*And then citing studies of the health effects of people that obviously sit and inhale all darn day, while the effects of people that smoke tobacco or love to down beer are somehow culturally disconnected from the far more prevalent lung, throat, and mouth cancers that occur, and the bad kidneys from drinking most of your life. Basically selective outrage.
I dont even like the stuff, but it is just making us look like hypocrites to support busting some dude for a ounce of weed, and thus ruining his life, while a guy can walk down the street with two six packs of booze, 3 cartons of cigs, or a 5th of rum.
“The far left knows the damage and it is probably part of the plan along with opioids to destroy our nation.”
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So is President Trump part of the leftist plan to destroy the nation?
See => https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3679445/posts?page=138#138
From a genetic/genomic perspective, correct. But enough population numbers where it is correct— you then have public policy applied to ... all.
I doubt we can help any of them see the light. Eventually, they'll end up on the wrong side of history.
There used to be some awesome pot / WoD threads here back in the day.
Very glad for you. The Lord does know far more than even clinicians. You are Blessed. Stay well.
In my childhood, one of my cousins was prone to such hyperbolic generalizations. His propensity for outrageous puffery was so bad, friends would often start laughing whenever he opened his mouth. His was a classic case of being a walking joke, and it followed him throughout his life.
Friend, plenty of decent, cop supporting conservatives, also support the decriminalization of marijuana.
I don’t consider weed to be benign. But then, I don’t consider doughnuts to be benign either. Same with Vodka and bacon.
They each bring their own risks.
My biggest problem regarding marijuana is that I think it is a massive threat to big pharma and the health care/insurance industry in general. They hate it! And the reason is that it works for a lot of things they charge big bucks for. I now know simply too many people who’s lives have been changed for the better thanks to Medical marijuana. And for all we know, a toke a day could eliminate your risk of cancer. There is still so much we don’t know, but we still have a century of evidence from people who use at all levels.
No, the major reason they are listed as such is that anything less would result in far fewer $$$$'s going to the pharmaceutical companies, who have no interest in actually creating cures, but life long patients.
I've had high blood pressure all of my life. I've taken, at times, up to 5 different medications at once for high BP, and yet those 5 different medications do less to help the high BP than partaking in the devil's lettuce.
Personal experience does WONDERS when it comes to understanding pot. I have a very close friend who has a major seizure disorder. Multiple seizures a day or week. He can take pharmaceuticals that make him sleep 16 hours a day and a complete zombie when he is awake (and still have a couple seizures/week), or he can smoke regularly, function normally throughout his day, and have NO seizures.
Of course, this is hard to believe, until you see it - experience it - personally. It does a whole lot to open blind eyes when it is personal experience.
Sure, and the federal law is unconstitutional.
C'mon...it was put in Schedule 1 in the early '70s for one reason only: Nixon hated hippies.
Something tells me you haven't tested your legal opinion on that yourself.
Obama did free many drug dealers in jail before leaving officwe
“I watched as my two brothers succumbed to the lower standards of dopers. Neither had any ambition. Neither became a success story.”
I am a ‘it depends’ kind of person. I know plenty of my share of people who are your stereotypical burnouts. However, I also know plenty of people who have smoked pot every day since the 80’s who are very successful. In particular, one has built and sold several businesses in the pet industry and holds several patents and is a multi millionaire. A second is a very successful engineer who works for the cell companies, and designs and implements the infrastructure for much of northern Nevada and California. A third does big real estate in San Diego area. All three started from nothing and came from lower to middle middle class. I remember taking one of my friends kids on a winter/snow camping trip deep in northern Nevada with those three in particular, and the subject of pot came up (this was before it became legal everywhere). The consensus was to be smart, and he did point out that between the 4 of us sitting around the campfire, there was over a million a year in income. However, that same kid now in his mid 20’s smokes pot like a chimney, and I do see the burnout starting to grow. So I am not sure what the solution is, some people can do it, but it is fully detrimental to others, and I have seen it actually helpful to yet others. Either way, I don’t want to see people arrested and careers ruined for firing up the bong (yes I know people dont use bongs anymore) once in a while. Furthermore, with it being illegal, the consequences of the black market are even worse.
Me personally??
By commenting that its against Federal Law?
I said marijuana/THC.... that is what is listed Schedule I psychoactive (the list is extensive btw, and significant, legally).
CBD. Cannabidiol. True medical “cannabis” derived. Zero THC. That’s the ticket. But not the ticket the weed pushers want, can assure you— just saying. All relief— no stone- CBD, and no habituation. Period.
Don’t doubt your anecdote at all. It is the CBD- cannabidiol in the “product” unfortunately (smoked?)— that is the active agent that is clinically significant. It is not the co-present THC psychoactive component (despite many efforts to convince legislators that it is).
Would recommend (unless it is too expensive vs. grow your own weed with it’s tars, carcinogens and ... THC) getting the most pure CBD oil you can (soon to be 99% from Patented Israeli sourced non-THC producing Hemp varietals— see Tel Aviv University). CBD oil and ‘vape’ it. BP reduction, yep, calming yep. Major component of recently FDA approved special indication for seizures. CBC- It is receptor central nervous system mediated, so brain and tissue receptors exist for it and they dominate at receptor level. Why it is confused with THC in the same “dose” which has no cogener action.
What should also be able to be done is... legally purchase CBD only hemp plants so people can afford at a minimum... the CBD effects. Rather think it would be impossible to smuggle out the Patented plant seeds for CBD only cannabis from Israel. Kind of like way back when, when people in the US tried to smuggle out the silk worm larvae as well as the correct mulberry plants to grow them (and the silk they produce) for harvest. Good luck and you are on the track.
Hemingway was CIA— you know that? His ghost is coming to slap you... LOL.
As such you should be informed. The Schedule I listing was based on the clinical application of that day— which included psychoactivity.... and a poorer definition of CNS dependency for the agents considered (agents=chemicals). And the listing was described differently.
No fan of Nixon, btw. Except he paid all his life for destroying Communists. My problem with him was the Quaker side and starting the freaking EPA— the tool for total control over a Free Republic.
My state is in the process of legalizing it now. It's still in the works and hasn't even been legislated yet, but I'm already hearing ads on the radio from non-profit groups offering to help people overcome their pot addiction.
The whole thing is nothing more than an emerging industry that is seen by governments as a huge source of untapped tax revenue.
This isn't going to end well under any circumstances.
I’ve never been strung out on heroin or crystal meth, either. Does that mean Inhave no credibility when I tell people that using that sh!t is a bad career move?
“Something tells me you haven’t tested your legal opinion on that yourself.”
A law being unconstitutional and the courts being willing to declare it unconstitutional are two separate things.
It’s a plain fact, though, that everyone used to understand the limits of the constitution required an amendment to be passed in order to grant the federal government authority to regulate intoxicants, since that is exactly what we did when they wanted to ban alcohol. No politicians would have bothered with that if they actually had the constitutional authority to just pass a law instead.
Therefore, anyone who decides to defend the opinion that the government now has authority to ban substances without an amendment is in the unenviable position of having to imagine that new constitutional authority can somehow appear out of thin air, just like the liberals imagine when they want to do things like legalize abortion.
After prosecuting and imprisoning people for years for dealing drugs, the state will now deal drugs? What lunatic is running this asylum?
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