Posted on 08/15/2018 9:06:53 AM PDT by fwdude
Why, haven't you heard, the "WEED" is good for you..! It cures moles, colds and sore butt holes, makes child birth a pleasure... But those evil tobacco barons will KILL US ALL....!!! /s
It’s more like 30% (not 1%, as you suggest) who have serious “dependency” (addictive) problems with MJ, according to the research I cited.
piss off , I probably know more about this subject than the next 20 people
It doesn’t show.
Oh, Good Lord! My wife and I both were born here. There have been lots of people smoking pot here since the 1960s. But the magnitude has changed dramatically since legalization. It has gone from minor nonsense to major disruption. People used to show a little discretion and try to keep it discreet.
You obviously were living in a different area of the state than where we are. If the stoners around here would smoke pot in the privacy of their own homes I wouldn't really give a hoot. If any of those here can recall what it smells like when someone ahead of you has run over a skunk then you will know what it smells like when you are following a car where the occupants are toking it up. And this is something that happens basically every time that you are on the road. I am always thinking "who ran over the skunk?" and then I remember that it is someone smoking pot ahead of me.
And they don't just drive “10 to 20 MPH slower than the speed limit” and hold up traffic that way. They forget to go when the light turns green when you are in gridlock causing others to spend extra cycles of the lights stuck in traffic. They also drive erratically. One minute they are holding up traffic doing 40 mph in the fast lane, the next minute they are passing people on the right doing 80 mph. The police do little about this because they have no tools to prove what the problem is in the field.
But it is not just the driving. The city built a walking path near our house. And the potheads wander off the trail and smoke pot on our private property and stink up our house and have caused several small fires. When we have tried to run them off they have been very threatening to both my wife and I. They also leave their pot smoking paraphernalia in our yard. This is just a small sample of the types of nonsense we have had to put up with these days.
We occasionally had difficulties before legalization, but it went up ten fold after legalization. And the people causing the problems have become emboldened, obnoxious and extremely threatening. We are probably going to be forced to leave our beautiful home that we have owned for decades. It was built in 1900 and we have spent many years restoring it, but this nonsense is becoming intolerable.
Ironically we have been looking at moving to Florida. The housing prices in central Florida are good. We have friends and relatives who live there. My wife is always cold and loves warm tropical weather. So if we end up down there with you... I guess we will be able to thank the potheads. And you will have a negative consequence as well... more grumpy old neighbors.
As a conservative, I believe in individual responsibility. My lawyer daughter makes a good living defending drunk drivers in court, which is majority of her clients. And she is in WA state.
If a pot smoker is causing traffic problem, he/she should be given a traffic ticket. I not want my tax dollars spent on cops, judges, bailiffs, court personnel, prison personnel, prosecutors and publicly funded defense lawyers to prosecute possession of pot.
I was on a jury in Dupage County, Illinois, where a 70 something man was in court for possession of marijuana and resisting arrest. His pot inventory was on display in court. It was a small tin can, probably 2-3 Oz of pot. This man was thin and old and the arresting cops in court were 200 pounders young burly men.
What a huge waste of tax payer money to pay the judge and other court personnel, the court house, the prosecutors, stipend paid to the jury for the week, court supplied defense lawyer, prison costs to jail the convicted 70 year old man, and so many other miscellaneous costs.
The resisting cops charge was ridiculous. I was the lone hold out on that charge but gave in after 2 days of jury deliberation, because I just wanted to get back to my job.
Move to Florida...!!! Very good state for seniors. We get $50,000 deduction on assessed value for property tax. Our property tax is $650/year for a 2 Bed room 2 bath condo in a gated community. Sales tax 6.5%, and fee to renew car stickers is less than $30.
This is a purple state, and we can use more conservative voters.
Weather is hot and humid for 4 months, and the rest of year is actually quite pleasant. Last year we drove from FL to WA state and crossed dozens of states, and discovered Florida has highways in best condition.
Ironically we lived in Smokey Point, WA ... LOLOL
About 40 miles north of Seattle.
As I said— a poorer definition of CNC dependency. CNS— central nervous system. At that time, poorly understood blood brain barrier and receptor mediated effects specific to CNS tissue receptors.
Don’t know a thing about Eastland... but in those times the underground industry of marijuana (dealers, producers, importers) were financing rather serious threats to natsec surrounding Vietnam (whether one agrees with WHAT they were protesting against— the source manipulators were provably, communists- long enemies of Nixon, coupled with the elitist snots of Foggy Bottom who never forgave Nixon for pursuing and getting Alger Hiss. The Venona transcripts proving much later, as well as Harry Dexter White), and co-opting with good ole Walter Cronkite the again media driven lies that the US was somehow losing in Vietnam (example: Tet Offensive was obliterated, but not to our media. It is what brought them to negotiating table, and the intelligence community turned it into defeat).
So, if you want to argue about the poorer science (more properly the limitations of clinical knowledge/pharmacology of the day)— fine, but that is NOT the case today, despite yet again political based howling. Seems that certain elements of our political (dare one call it ruling) class decided to err on the side of caution and many years of prior law enforcement experience. Elvis’s offer to help being of little value as a “music industry narc”(LOL).
thank you and good day.
Every time we come down to visit friends and family Florida we spend the next few months trying to figure out the best way for us to move there. We agree that the highways and rest areas are superb. Our last visit we did a round trip of almost the entire state visiting friends and relatives on both coasts from the far North to South of Miami for over two weeks and drove our rental car approximately 1200 miles.
We did manage to get off the freeway in unfriendly areas in Ft. Lauderdale, but it is just like any other large community... you need to keep your wits about you. Everywhere else we were treated great.
When we stayed with some friends in Central Florida they hit us up to bring them marijuana if we drove down next time. They were growing it in their greenhouse “for medical purposes” when they lived in Washington but started making a lot of money on the side selling it to their neighbors in an upscale community. They eat it instead of smoke it. It was funny because at his retirement party a few years ago they had a bunch of recently acquired expensive junk all around their house in Washington. And my one friend said, “I thought when you retired you were suppose to buy less crap. What are they doing... selling pot?” And it turns out that they were. But they are afraid to grow it in the small community they live in now in Florida.
We live in Tacoma about 40 miles South of Seattle so that would probably explain our difference in perception. Tacoma is a war zone compared to Smokey Point. We did buy a tandem sea kayak from someone in Smokey Point a few years ago.
20X stronger than in 60s.
Auto accidents. Slack workers.
Get ready.
Yep.
Yeah, get ready for the lies and cover.
Colorado can give lessons.
This applies to Michael Savage. He used it in his formative years, as I recall. He never grew up emotionally.
Pals with Timothy Leary, Alan Ginsberg. That is why I refuse to read a book on God by an arrogant agnostic.
You’re ignoring the externalities of legalized pot use while making that point at the same time, unwittingly.
Giving people traffic tickets for driving high involves resources, including courts, administration, and others we can’t even think of. The money recovered through fines hardly covers the cost of enforcement. Sometimes lives are the cost.
Speeding tickets are several hundred dollars and is a YUGE source of revenue for police departments.
On the other hand arresting & prosecuting a recreational pot smoker is just the opposite...costs tens of thousands of dollars to the tax payers.
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