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Full title: New York crash victim text messaged that limo was in ‘terrible condition’ before accident killed 20

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1 posted on 10/08/2018 7:04:14 AM PDT by ETL
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https://kywnewsradio.radio.com/articles/ap-news/police-20-dead-upstate-ny-crash-involving-limousine-0

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2 posted on 10/08/2018 7:04:52 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Lawsuits were had by all..................


3 posted on 10/08/2018 7:08:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Q............PREPARE FOR 'SKY IS FALLING' WEEK...........................)
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Here’s a listing for a similar vehicle. These are modified vehicles, they don’t come from the factory this way and don’t have the safety features a factory vehicle would. The seating capacity is listed as 25. Notice the seats are along the sides.

https://limoforsale.com/limos-for-sale/ford/excursion/2001-ford-excursion-suv-stretch-limo-ultra-1818.html


6 posted on 10/08/2018 7:10:14 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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7 posted on 10/08/2018 7:10:22 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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9 posted on 10/08/2018 7:11:41 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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A year 2001 limo? Who in the hell keeps such old crap as rentals? Most rental companies have a planned service life for their vehicles, which I think is something like 3 years or so, then auctions them off.

That vehicle sounds like a “down & outer” special.

I feel sorry for the people that were killed, but if they knew it was in poor shape, they should have opted for something safer. Poor judgement.


13 posted on 10/08/2018 7:14:47 AM PDT by redfreedom (Gun control has proven success! (Such as in Hitler's Germany & Stalin's Russia))
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22 posted on 10/08/2018 7:20:31 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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They keep stressing that the limo went through a stop sign, but that seems incidental considering that it hit a parked car and then an embankment.

I guessing the driver had a heart attack or something.

23 posted on 10/08/2018 7:21:49 AM PDT by dead
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My brake lines rusted out on my fairly late model Chevy Pickup. Luckily, nobody died when my brake pedal went to the floor. It makes me wonder if we had a brake failure here.


28 posted on 10/08/2018 7:29:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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Very sad.


32 posted on 10/08/2018 7:33:07 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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So sad. So many family members gone all at once. Prayers for the families.


33 posted on 10/08/2018 7:33:28 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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The news I heard on the radio said two pedestrians were also struck and killed, yeeesh.

Freegards


44 posted on 10/08/2018 7:41:36 AM PDT by Ransomed
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Crash site is not far from the famous Howe Caverns.

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49 posted on 10/08/2018 7:48:44 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Having worked in a hospital ER for years I learned many thing....including never to ride in a moving vehicle without a seat belt on.


69 posted on 10/08/2018 8:02:32 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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Just looking at the hill they were going down, it stretches for a couple of miles. You would have to be on the brakes the entire way down, and if the brakes fail, there is absolutely no hope of stopping.


76 posted on 10/08/2018 8:06:07 AM PDT by Wizdum (Buckle up! It's going to be one hell of a ride.)
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Initial reports were that this was a wedding party headed to a wedding when the crash occurred.

Today it may have been a birthday party?

Why can't the press get the facts before they speculate?

They're not doing their jobs as usual.

84 posted on 10/08/2018 8:15:22 AM PDT by HotHunt
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Model year 2001 vehicles in that part of New York state are little more than corrosion experiments.


91 posted on 10/08/2018 8:21:27 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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Still no word on the cause? Is the driver alive?


97 posted on 10/08/2018 8:32:12 AM PDT by Boomer (Cheers to the Triump of the Trump Admin.)
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If you really want an idea of what happened, use Google Earth and go back up the road to the top of the hill about 2 miles away. Use you elevation indicator to see just how big a drop that hill is.

This is a HIGHLY deceptive drop. We have a dangerous mountain in Huntsville, Al with drop of that is less than this one. Ours has a lot of curves. This road has very few curves. This drops over 500 feet in less than 2 miles.

At the top of the hill about 2 miles away they have 3 separate sets of signs with a crossed out delivery truck (truck with red crossed out circle).

Load that SUV Limo down with 18 people, then throw in poor maintenance. They talked about there being no skid marks. I’ll bet with that limo loaded down with passengers there is no way in the world they could make the tires slide.

If the driver didn’t know that road, I could see where he could easily been traveling upwards of 70-80 MPH when he got to that intersection.


103 posted on 10/08/2018 8:39:43 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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