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Kamala Harris: Documents (a British subject)?
US National Archives ^ | January 21, 2019 | research99

Posted on 01/21/2019 12:25:55 PM PST by research99

Monday, January 21, 2019, California Senator Kamala Devi Harris announced her candidacy for the 2020 Presidential election.

Outstanding questions pertaining to her candidacy include her eligibility for this office. The US Constitution specifies only a "natural born" US citizen may hold this post. Definitions of that term, according to the intent of the writers of the Constitution, as well as some later court rulings, indicate this means "born to two US citizen parents." The requirement was intended so that only someone with undivided loyalties to the US, someone not with possible divided loyalties to other nations, could assume the title of commander-in-chief of our armed forces.


TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; democrat; kamala; naturalborncitizen; presidential
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To: Electric Graffiti
When people on our side believe the courts are the final say—the final arbiters of what’s constitutional, then we may as well turn out the lights.

Denial just ain't a river in Egypt. So gay marriage is not the law of the land?

241 posted on 01/22/2019 10:18:31 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Only because the executive and legislature have ceded their powers to the courts. The courts don’t make law and can’t change the Constitution. They offer an opinion—a ‘ruling’.

It only becomes defacto law when Congress and the executive follow and enforce such buffoonery. Instead of impeaching and removing the black-robed tyrants from the bench.


242 posted on 01/22/2019 10:24:45 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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To: Mollypitcher1
ANYONE who has studied The Law of Nations and the history of its influence on our Founders who wrote the Constitution fully understands the meaning of NATURAL BORN Citizen.

What muddles this reasoning is that the original 1789 English translation of The Law of Nations was not available until two years after the Philadelphia Convention, and a year after the ninth state ratified the document. Therefore, it seems almost impossible for it to have been the definitive basis for the wording used in the United States Constitution.

243 posted on 01/22/2019 10:34:10 AM PST by semimojo
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To: Electric Graffiti
It only becomes defacto law when Congress and the executive follow and enforce such buffoonery. Instead of impeaching and removing the black-robed tyrants from the bench.

Like Brown vs the Topeka Board of Education? So when will the impeaching and removal of the black-robed tyrants begin?

244 posted on 01/22/2019 10:35:02 AM PST by kabar
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To: Fresh Wind

thanks, I am very familiar with Immigration & Naturalization law...


245 posted on 01/22/2019 10:51:10 AM PST by rolling_stone (Hang em slowly don't boil the rope make it a little short...)
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To: semimojo

Try reading the law of nations. It’s obvious the framers used it as one of their primary sources in drafting the Constitution. It’s meaning, it’s wording , and it’s definitions.

It’s not up for debate


246 posted on 01/22/2019 10:51:14 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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To: Electric Graffiti
It’s not up for debate

Snort.

I notice you didn't address the point made in my link.

247 posted on 01/22/2019 11:01:07 AM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Cuz it’s stupid. A troll’s argument.


248 posted on 01/22/2019 11:10:51 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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To: semimojo

You ignore the fact that most, if not all, of the Founders read and spoke French, the language in which the Law of Nations was written. French was, and still is, the Diplomatic language of the world. (All documents in the United Nations are written in English AND IN FRENCH.)
The Founders were not uneducated. By today’s standards, they were highly “educated.” Take two for example: Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. Franklin secured the aid of Louis XVI in our Revolution. France was the first country to recognize our new country. Jefferson helped Lafayette write France’s 1789 Declaration of the Rights of Man and of Citizens which preceded our Bill of Rights. Our Founding Fathers were imminently qualified to decide the future of the country they had created.
Far too many people think English Law was the basis of our legal structure. I would remind them that English Law spoke to SUBJECTS of the CROWN. America rejected the CROWN and its servants, its subjects. America is founded on the individual rights of its citizens.....a new concept at its origin and one which many nations still cannot understand. “WE THE POPLE” rules our land, not “WE THE KING.”
There are numerous references to a copy of the Law of Nations being sent to Benjamin Franklin by its publisher. Letters and documents such as have been supplied by the Library in Philadelphia show that George Washington borrowed a copy which he never returned. Congress ordered a copy....etc.
The Law of Nations was written in French by the outstanding AUTHORITY of the time on INTERNATIONAL LAW, the Swiss, Emerich de Vattel.
The Law of Nations is cited in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution which refers to the duties and powers of Congress. “To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations.”
There is a mountain of evidence that the Founders used the Law of Nations when writing the Constitution. One simply has to look for it.


249 posted on 01/22/2019 11:20:07 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: rolling_stone

Then why ask the question?


250 posted on 01/22/2019 11:31:00 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Fox News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: research99

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The words “two US persons” do not exist in the constitution, nor in any court decision of record.


251 posted on 01/22/2019 12:17:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CatOwner

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>>”No court will disqualify her.” <<

There is no evidence to that effect.


252 posted on 01/22/2019 12:24:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mollypitcher1
Far too many people think English Law was the basis of our legal structure.

With good reason. It's hard to say that the Magna Carta, Locke and English common law didn't have a major influence.

“To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations.”

You really think Article I Section 8 is referring to Vattel's book?

253 posted on 01/22/2019 12:25:42 PM PST by semimojo
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To: BlackAdderess

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>> “ She was born in California and the law of the land long before she was born was that she is a citizen.” <<

If her parents were here legally with intent established to be permanent residents, then that is true; otherwise no.
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254 posted on 01/22/2019 12:28:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Blue House Sue

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Her situation is the mirror opposite of Cruz’ situation.
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255 posted on 01/22/2019 12:30:23 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Fresh Wind

it was a rhetorical question to the person i was directing it at..


256 posted on 01/22/2019 3:40:23 PM PST by rolling_stone (Hang em slowly don't boil the rope make it a little short...)
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To: NELSON111; All

If you read the whole sentence, I would like to think you will be able to see how men a lot smarter than us solved that problem. I think it would cover all you mentioned.

4. No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;

I do agree it shouldn’t matter where you are born as long as both parents are citizens.

Federal naturalization laws (1790, 1795).
United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” (March 26, 1790).

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof on application to any common law Court of record in any one of the States wherein he shall have resided for the term of one year at least, and making proof to the satisfaction of such Court that he is a person of good character, and taking the oath or affirmation prescribed by law to support the Constitution of the United States, which Oath or Affirmation such Court shall administer, and the Clerk of such Court shall record such Application, and the proceedings thereon; and thereupon such person shall be considered as a Citizen of the United States. And the children of such person so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under the age of twenty one years at the time of such naturalization, shall also be considered as citizens of the United States.

And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens:

Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States: Provided also, that no person heretofore proscribed by any States, shall be admitted a citizen as aforesaid, except by an Act of the Legislature of the State in which such person was proscribed.

I originally was in the camp that Obama’s father was British and that would make him ineligible. I never cared where he was born. I was more interested as to who the father is. When all was said and done, we never got a real birth certificate. If I could afford it, I would pay someone to get a DNA sample. BVB


257 posted on 01/22/2019 9:35:48 PM PST by Bobsvainbabblings
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To: semimojo; Mollypitcher1

Not to mention that the Preamble to the Constitution states that it is based on “natural law”

The difference between a citizen and a subject is that a subject owes a responsibility to the government while a government owes a responsibility to its citizens. That is the basis for a limited power government like our Republic.

My state California is full of corruption and mismanagement because since the late 1980’s it has been changed from a REPUBLIC to a DEMOCRACY which is a mild form of mob rule, especially when it is a one party state and that party is mostly Socialist/Communist.


258 posted on 01/22/2019 10:12:20 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: semimojo

Law of Nations was published in 1757 well before the Declaration of Independence, the Revolution, or the Constitution. While it was written in French, at that time French was spoken and read throughout the old and new worlds much as English is read and spoken throughout the world today.

England’s Common Law is law by custom and unwritten whereas America’s laws are statute or written law.

While there is some semblance to English law by custom in America laws are codified.


259 posted on 01/22/2019 10:35:32 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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To: semimojo

You really think Article I Section 8 is referring to Vattel’s book?

Absolutely. The title is specific and singular,


260 posted on 01/23/2019 5:58:15 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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