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1 posted on 03/15/2019 11:04:18 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Is there no “black box”?


2 posted on 03/15/2019 11:06:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Red Badger

Just a quick question. Is it possible to hack the computer systems of these planes?


3 posted on 03/15/2019 11:06:26 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Red Badger

One of the pilots used the plane, as the German pilot did, to commit suicide via jihad?


4 posted on 03/15/2019 11:07:55 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Red Badger

Jet Was Set To Dive , that’s the new anti stall on the plane that pilots don’t know is on the plane


10 posted on 03/15/2019 11:11:47 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Red Badger; taildragger
My speculation:

- several similar aviation accidents had autopilot and/or instrument indicator problems. Rather than simply hand fly the aircraft and rely on the standby gauges, these pilots kept trying to make the automated systems fly the aircraft, and they crashed.

11 posted on 03/15/2019 11:11:50 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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From a retired pilot friend... modern planes are equipped with computers to make many decisions for the pilot. It helps in third-world areas where pilots aren’t as well-trained. The pilot doesn’t even have the ability to override much of what the computer decides to do... scary!

In this scenario, the computer thought the plane was stalling. Step 1: drop the nose and gain airspeed. The pilot was likely pulling on the stick for his life while the computer simply ignored him and plowed into the ground.


15 posted on 03/15/2019 11:14:43 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Red Badger
Separately, the New York Times reported that doomed Ethiopian Airlines plane was in trouble almost immediately after takeoff as it lurched up and down by hundreds of feet at a time.

Correction to my previous post: if that was the case, it should not have been an autopilot problem (autopilot is tied into the instrument indications).

Flight control malfunction of some kind.....

16 posted on 03/15/2019 11:15:29 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Red Badger
Was this pilot suicide? I find it at least a bit curious that of all the flights this aircraft has made the only two that crashed were being piloted by men from majority moslem countries.
22 posted on 03/15/2019 11:22:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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To: Red Badger

Or was it set manually???
Aloha Snackbar??


28 posted on 03/15/2019 11:28:24 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Red Badger

Silly me for pontificating with zero aeronautical knowledge, but aren’t every foreseeable contingency,even the most implausible,simulated over and over?


36 posted on 03/15/2019 12:15:30 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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It couldn’t have been the MCAS. Eye-witnesses saw the plane in flames, and “shuddering.”


47 posted on 03/15/2019 1:00:34 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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A screw-like device found in the wreckage of the Boeing 737 Max that crashed last Sunday in Ethiopia indicates the plane was configured to dive, a piece of evidence that helped convince U.S. regulators to ground the model,...

If the plane dove into the ground, wouldn't you expect to find the screw like device to be in that position.

Whether it was computer generated or pilot generated is another matter. - Tom

53 posted on 03/15/2019 1:36:10 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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The screw-like device was probably the jackscrew that controls horizontal stabilizer trim position. If the MCAS could affect the stabilizer trim, it would be difficult to overcome with elevator input. If so, you would think the aero engineers would have limited the potential range of input from MCAS. (Maneuver Charactistics Augementation System was installed to compensate for pitch up tendency due to bigger more forward installed jet engines)


57 posted on 03/15/2019 2:00:34 PM PDT by downtownconservative
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