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Elderly couple in apparent murder-suicide indicated they could not afford medical care
The Hill ^ | 08/09/19 | Marina Pitofsky

Posted on 08/09/2019 8:17:04 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

An elderly couple in Washington state was found dead in their home in an apparent murder-suicide, authorities said, and police say they discovered notes about the couple’s struggle to afford necessary medical care.

A 77-year-old man living near Ferndale, Washington, called 911 Wednesday morning and told the dispatcher he was contemplating suicide, according to a Facebook post from the Whatcom County Sheriff’s Office. The sheriff's office wrote that the dispatcher tried to keep the man on the line, but he hung up saying, “We will be in the front bedroom.”

Deputies arrived at the scene minutes later, according to the Facebook post, and a crisis negotiator “attempted to contact the occupants of the home” for an hour. Deputies then deployed a “robot mounted camera” into the home and saw the man and his wife were dead. Both appear to have died from a gunshot wound.

The sheriff’s office is now investigating the case as a murder-suicide. Several notes were reportedly left in the home “citing severe ongoing medical problems with the wife and expressing concerns that the couple did not have sufficient resources to pay for medical care," according to the sheriff's statement.

“It is very tragic that one of our senior citizens would find himself in such desperate circumstances where he felt murder and suicide were the only option. Help is always available with a call to 9-1-1,” Bill Elfo, Whatcom County Sheriff, said in the post.

The identities of the man and woman will not be released until after the next of kin are notified.

Two dogs were also found in the house, and have been taken to a local Humane Society. “Numerous” firearms were also found. (?)>


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare
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To: yesthatjallen

The legacy of McCain’s thumbs-down.


21 posted on 08/09/2019 8:38:41 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: yesthatjallen

Who will they be voting for in the 2020 Democrat primary


22 posted on 08/09/2019 8:39:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: NEMDF

No longer needs to. Once one turns 65 or older they are automatically put on Medicare, which covers 80%.


23 posted on 08/09/2019 8:40:02 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: yesthatjallen

The democrats broke our system, the only answer is dereg. Remove all government mandates, let insurance sell whatever, let price competition begin and get the government hands out of all of the people’s pockets.

You get 3 government mandates
1. Price Transparency - all prices must be publicly posted/available
2. Freedom of Choice of any plan you want or no plan
3. No price collusion or fixing by state or private means

What this would do would put hospitals, drug companies, medical device providers, and insurance companies in direct competition. Immediately web companies would pop up doing comparisons and showing who is cheapest for highest quality. It would be a battle for them all to lean out the overhead and paperwork, and provide actual health care.


24 posted on 08/09/2019 8:43:00 AM PDT by King_Corey (Buy American - https://madeinamericastore.com/)
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To: yesthatjallen

Legal Assisted Suicide is the law in the state of Washington. As one could predict, there has been an uptick in elderly suicides in this state.


25 posted on 08/09/2019 8:44:29 AM PDT by RooRoobird20 ( "Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves”)
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To: brianr10
The only Obamacare plan available was $700 per month, $11,000 deductible, then it only pays 50%.

That's insane.

26 posted on 08/09/2019 8:46:23 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (FOX has flipped. I am breaking the FOX habit. I have OANN on my Bookmark Bar now. No more FOX.)
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To: brianr10

We use Christian Healthcare Ministries. We have their best “plan” + “brothers keeper” which gives us basically unlimited “catastrophic” coverage. It costs $300 a month for both my wife and I plus about $30 a month for the brothers keeper.

It is a healthcare cost sharing organization that has very low administrative fees and has been around for decades. They have “shared” literally billions of dollars in healthcare expenses.

https://www.chministries.org


27 posted on 08/09/2019 8:47:11 AM PDT by fireman15 (p)
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To: brianr10

My wife and I buy NY “marketplace” coverage from the state-sponsored cartel. For two of us, 48 years old, the price is $900/month with $6000 deductible.

I would like to self-insure, but nearly every doctor I’ve spoken with does not have a clue about accepting cash or negotiating rates


28 posted on 08/09/2019 8:47:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: yesthatjallen

Obviously, they should’ve been red flagged because they were old.


29 posted on 08/09/2019 8:47:52 AM PDT by moovova
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To: yesthatjallen
... find himself in such desperate circumstances where he felt murder and suicide were the only option.
My neighbors, both well into their 70s, were on Medicare with the best Medicare Advantage plan available. I believe their monthly premium was about $300 for each of them.
They had extensive medical bills over the years, but the insurance paid almost everything. Then she came down with Lymphoma and she had to pay for most of her cancer treatments - in the 10s of thousands of dollars.
They went through their life savings in no time and put their house up for sale.
When we asked WTH they were going to do when that was gone - she made her hand into a pistol and put it to her head. She meant it too.
She died before that money ran out.
30 posted on 08/09/2019 8:49:57 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Wiser now

I’m “retiring”this year and plan to continue working fulltime for the foreseeable future.

Hope it goes well for you tonight!


31 posted on 08/09/2019 8:53:23 AM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: Wiser now

Medicare A is automatic at age 65. If you’ve paid Medicare taxes you should get that at no cost. Medicare B is about $110 per month, usually deducted from you Social Security. Supplemental plans will cover much or all of what Medicare B doesn’t. Plan F has no deductible but it is being phased out. Plan G is the same as F but with a deductible. Price will depend on where you live. Then there are the Advantage plans—not available everywhere but are like an HMO—most cost nothing extra but you’re locked into a network.

My plan F costs about $200/mo and so far has paid for everything—surgery, radiation treatments, tests, etc. Good luck.


32 posted on 08/09/2019 9:06:38 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: yesthatjallen

This article of course is nonsense. First, it doesn’t indicate if either of them was even sick. If creditors want to take the assets of elderly people in genuine need they have to drag their butts into court to get them.

We had “elderly” neighbors about 5 years older than us. They had an expensive custom home built on our “airpark” for them and their airplane. The wife got sick with cancer, so they stopped making their payments. They lived in their house for almost ten years before the bank finally got the it. The last I heard they are both still alive and well.

In our state no one in need is denied healthcare regardless of their ability to pay.


33 posted on 08/09/2019 9:08:54 AM PDT by fireman15 (p)
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To: oh8eleven

and yet, non-American citizens can walk into any emergency room in the country and by law receive free treatment, collect welfare, and subsidized housing but Veterans are left homeless, unemployed and and untreated in the streets not to mention everyday American Citizens.

My Aunt and Uncle suffered this fate when their money ran out treating her Alzheimer’s disease. My Aunt and Uncle were forced by the state and Federal Las to liquidate all their assets and go into Bankruptcy in-order for her medicare or medicaid, can’t remember which, treatment to continue which left my Uncle Destitute after she died.


34 posted on 08/09/2019 9:09:12 AM PDT by lurked_for_a_decade (Imagination is more important than knowledge! ( e_uid == 0 ) != ( e_uid = 0 ). I Read kernel code.)
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To: yesthatjallen

The terrible thing is they were using Medicare.


35 posted on 08/09/2019 9:09:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: fireman15

We live in Washington the same state that this murder/suicide happened.


36 posted on 08/09/2019 9:12:03 AM PDT by fireman15 (p)
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To: yesthatjallen

Butt, butt, butt..........


37 posted on 08/09/2019 9:12:58 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: yesthatjallen

No doubt Trump’s fault.


38 posted on 08/09/2019 9:13:09 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: JBW1949

“...I don’t believe in Medicare or SS...”
Then refuse both when you qualify...Simple...

Unacceptable response. I don’t believe in them either, but the government has forcibly taken well over a hundred thousand of my dollars to go into those programs over the years and I expect to get as much of that money back as I can.


39 posted on 08/09/2019 9:14:00 AM PDT by tstarr
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To: tstarr

So...If you don’t believe in them, yet take them, you are a hypocrite...
It matters not to me whether you accept the response or not...LOL


40 posted on 08/09/2019 9:17:16 AM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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