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Men and women who truly appreciate liberty, and our natural, God-given rights, are becoming a dying breed. We can thank the gov't school system and we can blame our church pulpits.
1 posted on 08/27/2019 7:52:50 AM PDT by Sopater
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These people better hope their family relationships are always rock solid, with no arguments or bitter moments. They are playing with fire by supporting this.


2 posted on 08/27/2019 7:56:06 AM PDT by Codeflier (Tagline for sale.)
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And our selves. That is the part that hurts. That is the part that gets me in trouble when I tell people “ We have no one to blame but ourselves”.


3 posted on 08/27/2019 7:56:25 AM PDT by sport
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More laws to be broken by those WDGAS. It will do as much as the anti drug laws stop drugs. It will look good in print, but the Crazies, Crusaders and Criminals will still find ways.


4 posted on 08/27/2019 7:56:46 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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70% of Republicans are not familiar with the Constitution or the Declaration and think that rights come from the government.


5 posted on 08/27/2019 7:57:00 AM PDT by arthurus (Second guessing Mr. Trump is a fool's errand.)
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This was no doubt a very carefully worded poll designed to get a certain result.


6 posted on 08/27/2019 7:57:29 AM PDT by fireman15
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Most ‘Pubbies have a quaint and charming belief in the rule of law and due process.
Realists understand that government agencies have been weaponized and not to be trusted, period.


7 posted on 08/27/2019 7:57:57 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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Polls show that only ¡YEB! can save us from Hillary.
Donald Trump will never be the Republican nominee.


9 posted on 08/27/2019 7:59:39 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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The concept is actually a fair idea.

It’s just that it would be abused and misused against ex-husbands, people that were not liked, and political enemies of the state.

Witness how Google tried to SWAT the engineer who is a whistle blower.


11 posted on 08/27/2019 8:00:52 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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I would support it, if. The if will never happen.


12 posted on 08/27/2019 8:03:21 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (60 in '20. Now, more than ever!)
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It’s OK, a majority of the American sheeple, even some here, supported the Patriot Act too. I heard nary a whimper when the (R)N(C) created TSA/NSA.

Our Const. Republic died MOONS ago.


14 posted on 08/27/2019 8:03:26 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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Not buying it.

Of course Republican voter keep returning to office people like Micro Rubio and Flimsey Grahamnesty that have been trying to abandon the rule of law and give the country to fraudulently documented foreigners.....


15 posted on 08/27/2019 8:04:12 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Martha Mcallum of Fox News had some “FBI Expert” on recently, who could have come right out of the KGB Academy.

He was full on Deep State, and all-in for the need for Fed.gov to implement “Red Flag Laws” and full of cliches about “domestic terrorism” and fear-mongering.

One more generation and the transformation/destruction of American culture will be complete.


17 posted on 08/27/2019 8:05:07 AM PDT by PGR88
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If we had this ‘red flag’ law in place, men like Chris Cuomo should not be allowed to own a gun.


18 posted on 08/27/2019 8:05:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Or they don’t want their daughters and sons slaughtered at school or walmart by a nut job who should never have a gun, and in previous times would be institutionalized, but today walk free.

The “Liberty” argument is why these dangerous people are walking free... Not only that, but those same “liberty” arguments, are why these dangerous kids are in mainstream schools as well.

Since the mental health policy of the US is an abject joke, you cannot pretend that society does not need to have different checks to protect itself.

Do red flag laws risk abuse? Certainly, just like PFA and other things do, but does that mean they are unacceptable?


19 posted on 08/27/2019 8:05:59 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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“A poll released Tuesday found that 70 percent of Republicans surveyed support such legislation, as do 67 percent of gun owners.”

Completely made up poll. This poll is nonsense, don’t believe it. There is a huge effort to get the President to sign any gun control law especially red flag laws. Gun control is 100 percent certain defeat for trump in 2020.

20 posted on 08/27/2019 8:07:42 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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> Support for the legislation was polled just before two deadly mass shootings

How would anyone reasonably think to run a poll on a topic like this immediately before events occur that cause gun grabbers to push these very bills?

There’s a zero chance this is a true, unbiased poll. This is gasoline on the fire of theories suggesting such violence is coordinated or controlled by statists.


21 posted on 08/27/2019 8:08:06 AM PDT by No.6
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No need for "red flag" laws.If a person is unstable enough to be denied access to a firearm then he's unstable enough to be involuntarily committed to a psychiatric facility.

Every state in the nation has specific,detailed laws and procedures to do so.

23 posted on 08/27/2019 8:09:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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Please know this about poll taking and those who administer the poll:

Since the conversation is not recorded, there is simply no way to verify that the answer that was given was what was recorded. Further, there is no way to validate that the person calling actually made contact with someone. Their system annotates the number of successful contacts (i.e. when a call is answered) but these include voice mailboxes and answering machines. That is the only thing recorded. So if your answering machine picks up to say that you are not there, the pollster can provide whatever response that they desire.


24 posted on 08/27/2019 8:09:15 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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Slowly but surely the government is figuring out ways to take away more of our rights.


25 posted on 08/27/2019 8:09:59 AM PDT by Durbin
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It’s behind a WSJ paywall but there’s a new survey out there showing traditional American values are quickly fading away.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/americans-have-shifted-dramatically-on-what-values-matter-most-11566738001

Particularly drastic is the change in values among young people. It truly is Misshun Akomplushd for the Publik Skrool Sistem.


27 posted on 08/27/2019 8:10:56 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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