Posted on 09/14/2019 9:13:29 AM PDT by lasereye
Typical CA state over-reach. Just discussed this with the wife and we both think it kill Uber Lyft business models which will cut jobs.
Years ago, I had a paper route, delivering the San Diego Union-Tribune.
I was an independent contractor, and not an employee of the paper.
I’ve heard that this bill will also affect people such as newspaper delivery people. Yes there are still a lot of people who read an actual printed newspaper and get it delivered. Although nowadays, the paper is delivered by adults driving vans or trucks, not by a neighborhood kid on a bicycle or wagon.
btt
Consulting companies, contract companies are the obvious alternative. Jusr as in IT a TEK can specialize in labor, so a company can specialize in labor for truck drivers.
The labor company would be totally separate from the company(s) that own the trucks, which would be totally separate from the company(s) that do the maintenance which would be totally separate from the logistics companys(s).
Specialization to game the government regs and txes.
How are the oldline Yellow Taxi drivers paid?
A friend that was a school teacher/taxi driver was self-employed, no benefits and no overtime, years back in Illinois.
Huh?
This is the equivalent of a restaurant claiming that it should not be subject to public health codes because food isn't part of their core business.
Standard Industrial Classification (SIC): 4121 (Taxicabs)
North American Industry Classification System (NAICS): 485310 (Taxi Service)
The money quote. CA wants more tax money...
What is the relevance to this of how they classify themselves?
I go on early morning walks while the paper people are delivering in my neighborhood. I never see anybody walking the routes. It is not practical if delivery is to every 4th or 5th house. When the weather is nice enough, carriers actually do use bikes and scooters.
Years ago, I was employed doing accounting work for a major financial institution. But I was not an employee of that institution. I was employed and paid by the temporary employee agency. The temp agency was paid by the financial institution, and the temp agency gave me a paycheck.
The response to this bill may be that Uber and Lyft drivers, and others, will be employed by a 3rd party, and that 3rd party company may then be the business entity which deals with Uber and Lyft Corporate, for pay and benefits.
Don’t forget Independent trucker, Barbers, Hair Salons, ... the list is endless. But we will do whatever is Necessary to make sure as many people as possible DEPEND on Gubmint by DESTROYING THEIR JOBS!!!
A little correction to the article is needed.
“AB5 is intended to”:
1) protect and enrich taxi companies, unions and their members;
2) get more campaign contributions for CA politicians from enriched taxi companies, etc; and,
3) curtail freedom of adults to run their own lives.
Correct, there are many people doing various jobs who are contractors and not “employees” of some company.
I saw a group of Uber drivers on TV, and they were against this law. They said they like the freedom to set their own hours, and that’s part of why they work for Uber. One guy expressed concern that he will now be assigned a specific shift, and also expressed concern that his hours will be limited, so as not to get into time and a half overtime territory.
And they also said they expect they will be paid less, if Uber has to treat them as employees, and have to pay workman’s comp, health insurance, etc for them.
And yet they classified themselves as a "Taxicab" company in the corporate documents they filed when they established the company.
Are they lying now, or did they file fraudulent paperwork when they established the company?
There is already a female Uber driver in San Francrappo that has filed a Lawsuit against Uber as soon as they told the State to go pound sand and they will NOT reclassify drivers as employee’s. She Wants her Workers Comp so she can take 6 months off PAID for her Hangnail and menstrual cramps.
When someone does something successful without the help of the government the left rushes in to destroy it. “You didn’t build that”
Just call them INTERNS instead of independent contractors.
“The labor company would be totally separate from the company(s) that own the trucks, which would be totally separate from the company(s) that do the maintenance which would be totally separate from the logistics companys(s).
Specialization to game the government regs and txes.”
How does that game the government? The workers of each of those specialized companies would have to be classified as employees.
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