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Should I believe the China Government CCP or other media sources?

The Epoch Times appears to be Breitbart of China when doing China stories.

Is Epoch Times a good source?

1 posted on 02/26/2020 10:17:17 AM PST by DEPcom
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“sick man of Asia” (東亞病夫) It's Baaak!
2 posted on 02/26/2020 10:18:57 AM PST by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about humanity)
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They’re as I understand it run by a group Falon Gung (sp?) that is persecuted as a sect in China, but they do very good reporting.


3 posted on 02/26/2020 10:18:59 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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“Is Epoch Times a good source?”

That’s a tough one. They are Falun Gong and really have it out for China after the ChiComs captured a few of their reporters. I haven’t seen anything too off-kilter though. They do seem to have sources in China.


4 posted on 02/26/2020 10:20:14 AM PST by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
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Ok, I am sure they are. This virus is particularly hard on those in poor health and the elderly. China is being exposed for what it is. A place where it’s average citizens are starved, in poor health and the government could care the less because communist governments regard their citizens as disposable.

So let’s all panic and crawl into a ball.


5 posted on 02/26/2020 10:20:34 AM PST by FlipWilson
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I hate to sound cold, but WHO CARES already about China??

It’s Obviously not having ANYTHING NEAR the effect outside of that third world sh..hole.

I feel bad for the folks there, but we have known all along they were screwed.

It will affect the economy somewhat. It is what it is.

Maybe it will infect their military and set them back a generation.


6 posted on 02/26/2020 10:21:09 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point finger at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to makne ends meet)
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I give them a big dose of salt on what they say about China. Epoch News is controlled by Falun Gong, aka Falun Dafa, who are mortal enemies of the Red Chinese. They may be right, but they also have huge axe to grind.


7 posted on 02/26/2020 10:21:11 AM PST by kaehurowing
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China is a black box with lying as one of their chief exports. “May you live in interesting times” is an old Chinese curse btw.


8 posted on 02/26/2020 10:22:52 AM PST by angmo (America invented the Moon, so we could go there.)
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Well, who would you sooner believe?

The Epoch Times?

Or Communist China?

Who do you think is more likely to be reliable?


9 posted on 02/26/2020 10:23:11 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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Epoch has proven to be pretty straight up and in depth


15 posted on 02/26/2020 10:28:19 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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Many years ago (and some recently), I would do economic research on China.

Can you trust Government statistics. NO. For a few reasons:

1) Everything in china is political, so the degree of lies is directly proportional to how political something is. If something is not highly political (say, amount of sugar produced in a Province, if the info exists, it is probably pretty accurate)

2) The central statisticians, even with the best intentions, are also lied to by those below them. Its the nature of any bureaucrat, but particularly communist ones.

3) Decades ago, they didn’t have the money, structures or systems to keep good records. This of course has improved a lot recently. And when they want to, they keep extremely detailed information

I’m sure Xi Jinping has really great info on a subject he wants info on. Coronavirus is a political bomb. What they will release to their own citizens, much less to foreigners, is a VERY different matter.


19 posted on 02/26/2020 10:32:19 AM PST by PGR88
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According to Wiki

"Associated Press reporter Nahal Toosi wrote that it is "technically inaccurate" to say that the Falun Gong organization owns The Epoch Times, but many of the newspaper's staffers are Falun Gong practitioners. Toosi noted that "many observers" have said that Falun Gong uses the newspaper as part of a public relations campaign[28] and that it is connected with the group and carries sympathetic coverage of it"

For the Axe to grind: Is it fair to say Breibart News has an axe to grind with Democrat party?

I have been following Epoch and some others on the China numbers to base my opinion on how bad this virus could be. I do not believe the CCP, they will hide numbers if it makes them look bad.

CCP is in danger of loosing power, so it is in their best interest for the numbers to go down.

As for how bad the virus will be I only had China numbers until it reach South Korea. I think South Korea will tell us a lot.
24 posted on 02/26/2020 10:39:11 AM PST by DEPcom
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I don’t care if 99% of the Chinese population dies so long as no or few Americans do. We should rush the vaccine and share it with them once we have one, close our borders during the interim. Protect Americans First.


27 posted on 02/26/2020 10:47:20 AM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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“in China’s Shandong Province”

The vast majority of these world wide statistics are what has occurred in China.


33 posted on 02/26/2020 10:53:38 AM PST by Parley Baer
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What is the DEATH percentage? “These are the things I need to know.” (The Chronicles of Riddick (2004))


38 posted on 02/26/2020 11:17:31 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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Shandong province is south of Beijing and north of Shanghai.

This means that Beijing is about to get hit hard.


40 posted on 02/26/2020 11:23:27 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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Anyone who believed the Chinese Government about this virus has a screw loose....


41 posted on 02/26/2020 11:49:21 AM PST by GOPJ ( http://www.tinyurl.com/cvirusmap https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm)
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I thought China was doing really well...especially in light of how Trump may do.


47 posted on 02/26/2020 3:16:39 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS!)
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