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Birx On The Imperial College Model Vs. The Oxford Model: “The Predictions Of The Models Don’t Match The Reality On The Ground”
Hot Air ^ | 03/27/2020

Posted on 03/27/2020 8:37:57 AM PDT by Liberty7732

I’m glad that I started paying attention to the dispute between the Imperial College and Oxford before watching this or I would have been confused as hell. But if, like me, you’ve been following that divergence, you get what she’s saying here. Bottom line: We still have no real idea how many people have this disease and aren’t showing symptoms, for whatever reason. It could be a small number. It could be an immense number. The death and hospitalization rates depend entirely on knowing, as does our national response. Pause here to watch the clip (or at least the first two minutes), then read on.

The second half of the clip finds her attempting to reassure Americans that there are still ventilators and ICU beds available in New York, which is nice, but for how much longer? No one’s going to feel reassured if she’s back on Monday to say, “Okay, update, every bed and machine is now taken.” It’s strange to see her urging everyone to chill out based on a snapshot at a particular moment in time when the rest of the daily message from her and Fauci is that we’re in this for the long haul and things are about to get very bad, and not just in New York.

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1 posted on 03/27/2020 8:37:57 AM PDT by Liberty7732
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To: Liberty7732

You didn’t note the author is “Allah” and is a NeverTrumper.


2 posted on 03/27/2020 8:41:57 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Liberty7732

Our response depends entirely on what people can imagine in their worst fears. I get laughed at when I say that most people have no frame of reference for what a pandemic is, other than the 1918 Spanish Flu, the first few seasons of The Walking Dead, and movies like World War Z.


3 posted on 03/27/2020 8:44:20 AM PDT by webheart (L)
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To: Liberty7732

Models are useless without good data..like climate models..most are junk..

The CDC panicked and now we have to get back to work.

If truckers are working and Walmart is working..it is time get going..

Even if we start with 50% in restaurants and work are way up..


4 posted on 03/27/2020 8:46:20 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Every battle plan doesn’t survive the first shot.


5 posted on 03/27/2020 8:48:31 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Liberty7732

I’m sure Dr. Doom will contradict her soon.


6 posted on 03/27/2020 8:50:17 AM PDT by McGruff (It came from China)
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To: Liberty7732

Same as the AGW models vs. the reality the perps documented in e-mail exchanges.


7 posted on 03/27/2020 8:56:17 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Liberty7732

Imperial College changed their numbers to 96% lower (550k to 20k) and then stated half of the 20k would die any way from other problems.

Pathetic at best.


8 posted on 03/27/2020 9:01:35 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: Liberty7732

In addition to saliva tests to determine if someone is actively positive for this virus (infectious), we need to start producing lots of blood tests, to determine if they already have immunity from previous exposure.

By sampling the population to see how many already have antibodies, we will know much better how far along the infection has really spread, and what the mortality rate really is. Otherwise, we are dealing with a dramatically skewed sample, of only the worst cases. As of now, those with little to no symptoms are generally not tested, and not included in the statistics at all.

Also, being able to certify which individuals already have immunity, clears them to get back to work, help others without protective equipment, or travel.


9 posted on 03/27/2020 9:14:14 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: webheart

I’m going with the Zombieland model.


10 posted on 03/27/2020 9:25:34 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: Liberty7732

The key fact here to me is that we simply do not know how many people are infected and now carriers and spreaders.

The other key fact is that if it is spread people will pick it up and get sick and continue to spread it.

We are doing NOTHING at all to detect these people. The only tests we are doing are to find out what people are actually sick from. We have given up on containment period.

The spread has been going on for a long time.

Two examples.

A guy in Oklahoma City has it, mid 40s, in the hospital, sedated, paralyzed, fighting for his life. His wife, a doctor, and both sons are positive and at home. While he could still communicate he said he had no idea where he got it. He has not been out of his area and contracted it as much as three weeks ago. Oklahoma had only a few cases then.

In Arkansas 34 people attending church function at Greers Ferry on March 5 have become sick and tested positive. Greers Ferry is 70 miles north of Little Rock. It isn’t in the mainstream though it is a retirement area. At the time of infection, March 5, only a handful of people in Arkansas had been tested positive.

85% or so are not terribly sick, the rest are sick enough to go to hospital. That isn’t the flu. How many never get sick but are carriers and spreaders? We have absolutely no idea and so in view of this overwhelmingly positive outlook lets just let ‘er rip tater chip and go back to business as normal.


11 posted on 03/27/2020 9:28:43 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: Liberty7732

Models are perfected as more hard data is provided to the model. These predictions so far are based on little to no real data. Might be more accurate to consult a fortune teller or the Magic 8-Ball.


12 posted on 03/27/2020 10:21:24 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: BeauBo

“In addition to saliva tests to determine if someone is actively positive for this virus (infectious), we need to start producing lots of blood tests, to determine if they already have immunity from previous exposure.”

I’ve seen this sentiment multiple times and it sounds right. But why can’t they simply test every pint of blood being donated? How many thousands have donated in the last month - all over the country. Also, how many have blood tested for other things - those could be tested too to check for immunity. I would think the Red Cross could have a database of people who have immunity.


13 posted on 03/27/2020 1:03:03 PM PDT by trenton1776
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To: Hojczyk
Even if we start with 50% in restaurants and work are way up..

Agreed. I was thinking they could have one of the staff constantly and conspicuously going around and wiping down the tables with a sanitizing spray/cloth to calm the pearl-clutchers. Hell, I'm 86 and would still show up at Red Lobsters "Endless Shrimp" Mondays (I'm in withdrawal).

However, I think these stores will stay shut until there is a blanket release or the damned lawyers would be suing everybody in sight for "willful contamination" or some such.

14 posted on 03/27/2020 1:43:04 PM PDT by Oatka
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