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CARES ACT shuttering grocery stores
Vanity | 4/16/20 | Freeze

Posted on 04/16/2020 11:48:52 AM PDT by Freeze923

I own a grocery store in Northern Michigan. Or I did until today. 80% of my staff just quit because the CARES Act pays them more for sitting at home than to come into work. I pay them on average $600-700 per week. The CARES ACT will give them 80% of that (regular Michigan unemployment 480-560) plus an additional $600 through the cares act. So $1100 to sit at home or $600 to come to work.

But if they quit they don't get unemployment right?

Wrong the CARES ACT says if the employee is uncomfortable working because of the Covid-virus they qualify for unemployment.

No use putting out a help wanted sign, I can't complete with what the governments (state and federal) are paying them.

I am one of 3 grocery stores in the county. Say hello to the food shortage!

(Just talked to one of the other stores, His staff is grumbling about the same thing. Haven't walked yet but it would not surprise him.)


TOPICS: US: Michigan; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: caresact; economy; food; grocery; michigan; unemployment
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To: Trinity5

I have 5 of them they were all with in $.25 of each other


81 posted on 04/16/2020 1:38:54 PM PDT by Freeze923
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To: mass55th

I am sorry for your son and DIL. Not fair. I believe in CA being furloughed still allows you to get unemployment. Check again re Indiana.


82 posted on 04/16/2020 1:39:58 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Freeze923

Oh jeez, that is really bad. But, it was my understanding that the DUA, (disaster unemplyment assistance) was at $600/wk only because the unemployment payouts through the various states differs from one to another. The $600 figure was to bring everything in line. I did not think that one could also get state unemployment as that would be considered double dipping.

I am going through this, filing for unemployment as a sole proprietor due to my fair season being cancelled. I think your employees are figuring this wrong. Or maybe it is a state thing and I am wrong.


83 posted on 04/16/2020 1:40:30 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: mass55th

Yeah, that sort of thing is a lot more intensive than, and please take no offense, what’s probably more of a clerking/spreadsheet/desktop publishing gig at worst at Geico (your wife’s job). We have a local/regional HQ for Geico here in Dallas and I have had personal clients that worked for them that had me assist them in getting connected to their VPN. Their setup was pretty old the last time I looked (you could still connect Win Vista machines to it until two years ago) so the computer has to either have some weird problem or be really old to not be able to connect.


84 posted on 04/16/2020 1:41:50 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NEMDF

That’s what it would be under ideal circumstances, but these aren’t anywhere near that. I would also note that Geico’s in-house support is... not great. As I said in my last post, I’ve been brought in to get local employees connected at home over the years when Geico’s in-house team gave up. To be fair, a lot of companies turned their backs on remote work for various reasons years ago, some reasonable and some just plain stupid, and now they’re having to ramp up for it when they hadn’t planned on it. Lots of my colleagues are completely slammed and frazzled handling tickets and hastily building remote work infrastructures with no notice.


85 posted on 04/16/2020 1:45:48 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: abigkahuna

From the State of Michigan Website:

Increased Benefit Amount and Number of Benefit Weeks

The CARES Act increases the weekly benefit amount people will get by a set amount of $600 on top of what they are already getting. It also increases the total number of benefit weeks from 26 to 39.


86 posted on 04/16/2020 1:51:16 PM PDT by Freeze923
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To: dfwgator

“If you can remote from home, somebody from half-way around the globe can remote just as easily as you.”

That happened to me in 2011.


87 posted on 04/16/2020 1:54:34 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Yaelle
Thanks...I know they're not the only ones suffering through this. I tried calling the office of unemployment in Indiana, but they close at 4:30 p.m. Eastern time. I did a search, and found this article:

Furloughed due to the coronavirus? Here's what you need to know

I sent it to my son with a note to check it out. I hope he listens to me for once in his life.

88 posted on 04/16/2020 1:54:53 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Spktyr

I had a much easier job, and had job security to boot. I worked 25 years as an officer, and Sergeant in NY State’s prison system. All I had to learn was to say “No”, and knock a few heads together. And that was only with the Administrators of the place. The inmates were a piece of cake :-)


89 posted on 04/16/2020 1:58:23 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

But without paperpushers, there’s no logistics and nothing gets done. :P

In any case, if you can get me that info or want to put them in contact with me, maybe I can help.


90 posted on 04/16/2020 2:01:20 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Rebelbase
"That happened to me in 2011."

A friend of mine's husband worked at the local office of Pitney-Bowes for many years. Then they started getting rid of people, and sent all the jobs overseas. His was one of the jobs that was eliminated. Like I said, this was many years ago. I believe Congress passed a Bill that allowed funds for college so these displaced people could learn new skills. I don't know what courses Chuck took, but he eventually ended up in a county Civil Service job working in the Medicaid Department, but of course he never made the money he was making with Pitney-Bowes. I'd have to say he lost that job at least 40 years ago. Can't even remember who was in the White House at the time.

91 posted on 04/16/2020 2:03:02 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: NEMDF

-shrug- I can either do that for a quarter hour or kill people in online games for that same quarter hour, and the Chinese government just shut down all gaming connections to the rest of the planet so I can’t kill Chinese players’ characters online any more. :P


92 posted on 04/16/2020 2:04:31 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Thanks for your kindness. It’s greatly appreciated. Kids today have no motivation, and when you ask them about stuff, they get offended. At 49, my son is still a kid. Wasn’t for lack of trying when he was growing up. He was just the kind of kid who didn’t care if he was grounded, punished, or disciplined. I had an easier time getting inmates to do what I wanted them to do.


93 posted on 04/16/2020 2:05:45 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Freeze923

Wow...We are moving. For some nine months we can roll in the do-ra-me....


94 posted on 04/16/2020 2:08:49 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: mass55th

I would beg to differ on that one. I know plenty of ‘Millennials’ that are quite motivated - one of them is under 26, has a house he’s paid off with his own earnings, has a paid off recent truck, a motorcycle collection that’s paid off, an offroad rig that’s paid off and a new Mustang that he’s paying off on accelerated payments, to give just one example.

I saw just about as many annoying useless kids growing up in LA in the 80s-90s as I do now, they’re just more visible and vocal these days due to communications improvements. :P

I should mention that I was kind of one of those kids that you couldn’t get much of a rise out of no matter what you did to me. But then my dad was and is an entitled malicious narcissist, soooo....


95 posted on 04/16/2020 2:09:50 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: mass55th

And no problem, you’re welcome. :)


96 posted on 04/16/2020 2:11:47 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
"I should mention that I was kind of one of those kids that you couldn’t get much of a rise out of no matter what you did to me. "

LOL!! I grew up in the 50's, and was the baby of the family, so I got away with far more than my siblings did. I thought I knew it all too when I was a teenager. What my mother told me went in one ear, and out the other, but when I became a mother at 19, reality set in, and I woke up to what responsibility is really all about. My mother used to say that the older us kids got, the bigger the problems. And back then I never understood why she couldn't go to sleep unless all of us were back in the house. When I had my own kids, I totally understood where she was coming from. I think because neither of my sons have children, they have no idea how much a parent worries about them, no matter how old they are.

97 posted on 04/16/2020 2:18:43 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Hopefully, he IS listening to you, since you’ve been generous enough to pay his/their rent, all of this time.

Sorry for all of their woes.


98 posted on 04/16/2020 2:20:41 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: tinyowl

Well $600/week is $2400/month plus UE - maybe $300/week = another $1200 so that makes $3600/mo. For not working.
Go to your job at $12/hr = $480/wk = $1920/mo. for working.

So yeah that’s close to $2k EXTRA.


99 posted on 04/16/2020 2:23:26 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: mass55th

From a lapsed Catholic:

May G-d bless you for your aid and may your good works be recognized here and there. We don’t really have a pope anymore so I hereby declare you St. mass55th.

Amen.

It is true that often times it is darkest before the dawn.

I hope one day soon that will be your sunrise.

;-)


100 posted on 04/16/2020 2:32:45 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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