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This is really a no-brainer.

Trump is never going to be able to pull off another 2016-like win in the Republican party, he surprised them once but now they know what to expect and how to beat him. Nor does he need their fund-raising machinery, and his base is already as large or larger than theirs. He doesn’t need them.

But they need him. Unlike Ross Perot or other 3rd party candidates who tried to build up from zero, Trump is starting with a winning hand. The GOP can act all cocky for a while but all Trump has to do is deny them enough votes to win anything and there’s their “existential threat”.

The Dems will fracture and the split will deepen as constituents let them know know unpopular the radical leftist policies are. To save their cushy jobs and perks, moderate Dems will start to reform again and some of them may well find the Patriot Party aligns with their needs better than the radical socialists.

The result of all this could well be coalition government which would be a first in the US but a welcome change from the Uniparty. All Trump has to do is pull enough of his supporters away from the R and D branches of the Uniparty and soon he’s on an equal footing and they won’t be able to get clear victories without his help. Even if they convict him in the Senate, his support is not going away and Don Jr. can ascend with The Donald acting as the Chairman of the Board and Kingmaker.

The ONLY way to win going forward is to change the game. And the best way to predict the future is to create it.

I look to see Pompeo run the nest time. Hope I spelled that name right.

Basically Congress is just one party changing deck chairs now. One Party masquerading as two. I do believe the American people are ready to have their own party.... and Trumps elections revealed this.

You make a good point except that the Democrats are Bolsheviks now and they’ve declared war on us.

[[Unlike Ross Perot or other 3rd party candidates who tried to build up from zero, Trump is starting with a winning hand.]]

Exactly- folks like Ross had at best a few million maybe? TRump has over 70 Million already- huge difference-

Schumer warned Trump that the intelligence community “they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” (Of course the intelligence community is made up of liberals too who call the shots)

Well, Now it looks like Trump might just have just as many ways of getting back at them politically- perhaps

I think you are on to something.

The GOP can act all cocky for a while but all Trump has to do is deny them enough votes to win anything and there’s their “existential threat”.

A Trump-led Patriot Party will be like the Libertarian Party on steroids at the ballot box. In the 2022 mid-term election, it will split the Republican ticket so much that the Democrat will win every race.

While tactically this may sound like a Bad Thing, strategically it will rid the Congress of RINOs who would normally win their races in a two-party contest. That's how we start getting rid of them.

The Dems will fracture and the split will deepen as constituents let them know know unpopular the radical leftist policies are. To save their cushy jobs and perks, moderate Dems will start to reform again and some of them may well find the Patriot Party aligns with their needs better than the radical socialists.

I think what will happen is this:

Democrats always overplay their hand. They will rush to pass an extreme left-wing agenda, and Pelosi and Schumer will be all over the news saying that it's "mainstream."
Democrats will show their incompetence at managing Big Government. They may be good at throwing "problems" at Republicans in charge, but they are not good at managing the day-to-day inner workings of things.
Centrist Democrats would reject the leftward lurch of the party. They may have tolerated the talk when they were in the minority, but they will want no part of it when it looks like it will really happen. Boys in the girl's bathroom at Target was manageable, just don't shop at Target. But when it comes to their daughters' schools it's another matter. Boys beating girls at girl's sports, men dressed as women teaching children altered history, these will be too much for many working-class Democrats to bear.

The result of all this could well be coalition government which would be a first in the US but a welcome change from the Uniparty.

If the 2022 mid-term election goes like I suggested at the top, 2024 may actually come down to a House of Representatives election. If a Trump-led Patriot Party strengthens from 2022 to 2024, a Patriot Party candidate might get enough Electoral College votes such that nobody will reach 270. I suspect that the House will still be heavily dominated by old-guard GOP, so the Republican candidate will win, but the "existential threat" will have realized and become metastasized. 2026 will see a big #walkaway from the historical parties and 2028 might see the first President from a new Patriot Party.

The ONLY way to win going forward is to change the game. And the best way to predict the future is to create it.

Worth repeating.

-PJ

The U.S. will never have a coalition government at the national level along the lines of a European-style parliamentary government. The days of regional parties are over, and as long as we maintain a winner-take-all system of elections we would inevitably and up with a bunch of dopes in office who get 35%-40% of the popular vote.

This is why the Reform Party was an utter failure and has effectively disappeared from the scene.

The key to building a “third party” political movement is to take several concrete steps right away:

1. Identify a coherent party platform with a small number of non-negotiable provisions that are rooted in common sense first and foremost. In fact, I’d suggest that the term “Common Sense Party” should be the most accurate description of this movement.

2. Start locally. Controlling state legislatures is far more important than fielding winning candidates in a House/Senate race or two.

3. The first step is not to RUN candidates in political races, but to ENDORSE them. Make the major parties beg for the votes of your supporters instead of fighting against them. Winning 30% of the vote in a three-way race accomplishes nothing if that becomes the norm.

4. Adopt comedy and in-your-face ridicule of empty-suit candidates and the political establishment as the stand approach to political campaigning. Viking Horn Guy should be a model for all of us to follow. Someone like that will start with a cult following that will get you 20% of the voters behind you with almost no effort at all.

Trump is just floating this idea to scare the republican establishment into playing nice with him.

He doesn’t need another party. He will sweep the next presidential primary if he decides to run. And he’ll likely be up against Kamala in the general. Easy win, f they get rid of mail in voting.

The ONLY way to win going forward is to change the game.

Then We Change the rules.

RULE #1 Nobody from either of the existing r or d parties may join the Patriot Party. Those POSSCUMBAG ANTIQUATED parties may NOT join the New Patriot Party, NO EXCEPTIONS !!!

RULE #2 The Patriot Party will be made up of People that are not Professional Politician’s. They will need to be Joe and Jane Public.

Rule #3 Nobody may be in Office more than 2 Terms. Based on the existing term’s set by the U.S. Constitution for the House of Representatives and the Senate.

Rule #4 NO PERKS, NO CASH PAY OFFS, NO GIFTS, NO LOBBYING, NO ANYTHING !!!

I’m open to more ideas but let’s try to keep things simple and basic.