Posted on 01/11/2023 10:17:36 AM PST by absalom01
I didn’t call you a democrat, I said I didn’t know one way or the other.
I would think that my comments are rather straight forward, but perhaps you just have trouble with comprehension
You don’t TRY to pull a concealed or holstered weapon when some thug already has his POINTED IN YOUR FACE.
You hope the thug just robs you and turns away, THATS WHEN YOU SHOOT HIM IN THE BACK (a lot).
BFLR
Here I go; disregarding my Fathers advice again, and I should really know better.
“NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT, THEY WILL JUST DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIANCE”!
Colion Noir has an excellent video on youtube which addresses the stress and response to same with an adrenalin overload.
Let him walk or be a craven coward. Or pull your weapon with his back to you like you said and tell him to freeze. Warn him, you have the draw on him. That is what the police do.
Your father sounds like he was a real winner too. What heros.
At this point, it’s probably a better idea to pull your phone out instead of your gun and dial 911 to report the crime to the police, to start them on their job. Fill them in on what happened, what the crime was, what he was wearing, if he had any weapons, etc.
The argument can be made, unless he had turned around and began slinging bullets in your general direction, that the threat to you was over and that you should not have shot the person. Once that argument is made, it’s not very hard to get to the next argument, which is that you just wanted to kill someone.
As I stated on another thread, “reassess after each shot” at which you scoffed. Texas law is clear.
yeah.. ok. You know.
Look online and check out gun fights like ASP or other self defense channels. What exactly are you going to reassess after the first shot... help me out here...
What are you assessing after the “each shot”. How long do you have between shots to “assess”?
I’m not scoffing. I’m laughing, well actually smirking.
So if I or any man ran up and punched you in the face shoved your wife or daughter to the ground pulled out a gun and ran around the scene back and forth then... back towards your family... you’re going to shoot once, reassess and then repeat target acquisition, pull of a round aaaaaannnndddd then pause to reassess.
I think that would be really neat to see.... sad but it would be very instructive.
Do an analysis of this one and tell me how unnecessary shooting 10 rounds at a “retreating perp”. ..
Elisjsha Dicken, an armed bystander, fired on the shooter from 40 yards away, according to police. Within 15 seconds from when the shooting began, Dicken fired 10 rounds hitting the shooter as the shooter tried to retreat into the bathroom but collapsed and died.
you would have fired one round, reassessed, fired another... reassess... until the perp mag dumped on you or killed a bunch of others. You and NOBODY knows how many weapons someone has or if there are others involved... like the good samaritan in Walmart that tried to ambush a shooter but didn’t see the perps girlfriend/wife who came up and shot him. just like that.... bang.
you have no idea what a rapid descent to death can occur in any fight/attack/robbery.... and while you are assessing and reassessing.... your clock is ticking and someone is going to die. Notice the guy in the scooter in this video.... he’s assessing and decides.... deuces, I’m out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn0AGKvkVvI
If at the beginning of the encounter the shooter feared for his life, and had a reasonable reason for doing so, he is allowed to take steps to protect himself. Once he starts that process, the fear might not immediately stop when the robber is probably incapacitated. The fear, action and adrenaline continue before a rational grasp of the situation can reasonably take place. Someone on that situation might not be able to stop instantly, especially if not extensively trained in complicated use of force situations.
I was the victim of an armed robbery, and yes, for me fear and adrenaline cancelled out rational thinking. It was like I was on autopilot, I wasn’t thinking, only of surviving.
He was headed for the door. The shooting was a choice not a necessity.
How do you know he wasn't also headed for the patron sitting at a table on the left side of the door?
You draw down and if he makes a move towards that patron then shoot. He was clearly headed for the door. IMO If the shooter is so scared and can't think rationally under duress then he should not be carrying at all.
Therefore, according to you, 99% of police should not be carrying at all.
Absolutely. Affirmative. 100%. No doubts whatsoever. Yes.
I want the shooter given the key to the city and a Congressional Medal of Freedom.
99% of police don’t shoot perps in the back without a warning.
Then you understand.
I grew up in an environment that was rough and had to learn a lot about avoiding trouble as well as how to defend myself effectively when the odds were significantly against me and thought I was pretty damned good at it—until someone did actually try to kill me and caught me completely by surprise. God, instinct, or muscle memory saved my ass as my lights were going out and nothing but basic survival was going through my mind and still don’t remember most of it to this day.
Its been said a lot that everyone has a plan until their nose gets bloodied which is near universally true until its happens enough that you’ve conditioned your mind and reflexes to take certain actions rather than just react naturally, that theory is even more valid when it’s potentially life or death.
Nobody trained me to eliminate a threat to myself, and others.
If the bad guy is worth 2 bullets, it’s worth a magazine.
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