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BREAKING! ANOTHER DEEP STATE LEAK: National Archives Claims Evidence May Undercut Trump’s Claim Documents He Took to Mar-a-Lago Were Declassified
The Gateway Pundit ^ | May 17, 2023 | Cristina

Posted on 05/17/2023 6:51:57 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man

The National Archives is claiming it has evidence that may undercut Trump’s claims that the presidential records he took to Mar-a-Lago were automatically declassified, according to a leak to CNN.

Trump says the documents were declassified as soon as he took them to Mar-a-Lago.

Acting Archivist Debra Steidel Wall however, claims there is evidence Trump and his advisors knew of a so-called declassification process.

Steidel Wall sent Trump a letter informing him the National Archives are going to give Special Counsel Jack Smith 16 records which may prove the documents were not automatically declassified.

And the witch hunt continues.

CNN reported:

The National Archives has informed former president Donald Trump that it is set to hand over to special counsel Jack Smith 16 records which show Trump and his top advisers had knowledge of the correct declassification process while he was president, according to multiple sources.

In a May 16 letter obtained by CNN, acting Archivist Debra Steidel Wall writes to Trump, “The 16 records in question all reflect communications involving close presidential advisers, some of them directed to you personally, concerning whether, why, and how you should declassify certain classified records.”

The 16 presidential records, which were subpoenaed earlier this year, may provide critical evidence establishing the former president’s awareness of the declassification process, a key part of the criminal investigation into Trump’s mishandling of classified documents.

According to the letter, Trump tried to block the special counsel from accessing the 16 records by asserting a claim of “constitutionally based privilege.” But in her letter, Wall rejects that claim, stating that the special counsel’s office has represented that it “is prepared to demonstrate with specificity to a court, why it is likely that the 16 records contain evidence that would be important to the grand jury’s investigation.”

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To: MrRelevant

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WebAug 24, 2022 · Acting Archivist Debra Steidel Wall also notified Trump’s lawyer Evan Corcoran that the agency would provide the FBI access to 15 boxes of materials in order …
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61 posted on 05/18/2023 3:35:35 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: McGavin999

They don’t care if they’re right or within the law/constitution. Their job is to tie up Trump and prevent him from being elected president. They’ll reflect later, as Harry Reid, “he’s not president is he?”…


62 posted on 05/18/2023 4:07:30 AM PDT by TiGuy22
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“...claims there is evidence Trump and his advisors knew of a so-called declassification process.”

Certainly. The process: Trump, thinking, “These documents are declassified.”

An underling in the Executive Branch does not have veto power over the President, or does not have the authority to require the President to request permission.


63 posted on 05/18/2023 4:14:26 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Macho MAGA Man

All that matters is what the corrupt US media can make the people believe is true.


64 posted on 05/18/2023 5:20:36 AM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Poor 'lil Travon bees slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
ANOTHER DEEP STATE LIE...!!!

OBTW, has anyone yet pinpointed what specifically the Deep State is?

Anyone?

65 posted on 05/18/2023 6:18:14 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: DesertRhino
The President does not need ANYONE’S permission and his decision is beyond review.

But a DC judge & jury will find him guilty anyway. And if an appeal reverses that verdict the election will be over. The Nazis knew that the law was against them but they had the Sondergerichte.

66 posted on 05/18/2023 6:25:19 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Bookshelf

Link does not work


67 posted on 05/18/2023 6:30:21 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Here are several more articles on the topic

https://www.google.com/search?q=Debra+Steidel+Wall+also+notified+Trump%E2%80%99s+lawyer+Evan+Corcoran+that+the+agency+would+provide+the+FBI+access+to+15+boxes+of+materials+in+order+%E2%80%A6&rlz=1CAXGER_enUS827&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#ip=1


68 posted on 05/18/2023 6:48:31 AM PDT by deport
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To: Skywise

Classification is a red herring.

the issue under the Presidential Records Act is that these documents belong to the American people, not to the President. Unless they are private papers and the Archivist has agreed that they are, Trump should not have had them.

. Under the PRA, the official records of the President and his staff are owned by the United States, not by the President.

The Archivist is required to take custody of these records when the President leaves office, and to maintain them in a Federal depository.


69 posted on 05/18/2023 7:11:42 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. -- Churchill)
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To: Alberta's Child

Classification is a red herring.

the issue under the Presidential Records Act is that these documents belong to the American people, not to the President. Unless they are private papers and the Archivist has agreed that they are, Trump should not have had them.

. Under the PRA, the official records of the President and his staff are owned by the United States, not by the President.

The Archivist is required to take custody of these records when the President leaves office, and to maintain them in a Federal depository.


70 posted on 05/18/2023 7:12:31 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. -- Churchill)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

What is the specific wording in the PRA that refers to the President’s power to classify/declassify?

All the stuff about declassification comes from Executive Orders, not the PRA. And Trump did not issue an Executive Order about declassification by mental telepathy. In short, the President CAN decide something is declassified, but he MUST communicate that to all other necessary powers.

The exception to him being able to declassify at will are nuclear secrets, and Dept. of Energy and DOD have to sign off.

Classification is a red herring.

the issue under the Presidential Records Act is that these documents belong to the American people, not to the President. Unless they are private papers and the Archivist has agreed that they are, Trump should not have had them.

. Under the PRA, the official records of the President and his staff are owned by the United States, not by the President.

The Archivist is required to take custody of these records when the President leaves office, and to maintain them in a Federal depository.


71 posted on 05/18/2023 7:18:44 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. -- Churchill)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“My guess? They have him dead to rights on it…”

Bad guess. They have nothing and there is nothing for anyone to flip over.

Just as with previous investigations, this is nothing but a baseless witch hunt, designed by the corrupt permanent bureaucracy, and amplified by a corrupt media, in order to create the public impression that President Trump is constantly under investigation.

The irony of all this is that - thanks to an endless series of political persecutions that come to nothing - President Trump is now, by far, the most exonerated and well-vetted politician in the history of the world.


72 posted on 05/18/2023 7:21:18 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

LOL

They didn’t follow the librarians lady’s process!


73 posted on 05/18/2023 7:57:09 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

The reason for the Presidential Records Act was to specifically give the President and only the President carte blanche to declassify.


74 posted on 05/18/2023 8:04:04 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Actually, I think the Presidential Records Act is a red herring. There are no criminal provisions associated with it.

That's why all these stupid headlines contain references to "classified records."

75 posted on 05/18/2023 8:17:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

No - classification is the LAW they’re accusing Trump of violating. If all papers (as you suggest) belong to the public than NO President should ever have possession of them after leaving office.

Except they do… they ALL do…

Which leads me to question your reasoning.

Yes - all OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT correspondence belongs to the people - but that doesn’t include items of a personal nature. And, of course, Hillary Clinton never did official government business on her private e-mail server…


76 posted on 05/18/2023 8:25:35 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Choose Ye This Day
In short, the President CAN decide something is declassified, but he MUST communicate that to all other necessary powers.

This is 100% false. See below.

In short, the President CAN decide something is declassified, but he MUST communicate that to all other necessary powers.

An Executive Order is a directive issued by the executive branch of the U.S. government. An Executive Order is not superior to the powers of the President of the United States under the U.S. Constitution.

Executive Orders are issued as directives aimed at everyone in the executive branch of the U.S. government who answers to the President.

Failure to follow an Executive Order doesn't constitute a crime under any circumstances. That's why all of these former Presidents and Vice Presidents have repeatedly demonstrated that they don't give a damn about meeting the requirements of these Executive Orders.

The exception to him being able to declassify at will are nuclear secrets, and Dept. of Energy and DOD have to sign off.

This statement is ludicrous on its face. Under what objective interpretation of the U.S. Constitution is the President of the United States subject to the authority of ...

(1) ... cabinet officials who the President himself appoints; and

(2) ... a department of the executive branch (Dept. of Energy) that didn't even exist until 1977?

77 posted on 05/18/2023 8:28:30 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
16 presidential records

Missing from that description for me is anything beyond a wish that those records should properly be understood as the law. Why is there no mention of these referenced records' contextual relationship to THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT?

They seem, rather, to be letters from NARA-types explaining what they desire Trump should do and what declassification procedures may have been like for others in the past...
except for Biden, of course!

Is there any public record, contentious, disparaging or otherwise, leaked, official or otherwise, of what the NARA interactions have been with the octogenarian presidential candidate and his 1850+ boxes containing classified documents--that were formerly stored in Chinatown and inconceivably authorized to have been declassified by anyone--on the LEFT side of the aisle? I didn't think so.

So we're predictably witnessing further evidence of multi-tiered treatment and persecution of Trump, conservatism and the right by appointed government functionaries.

78 posted on 05/18/2023 8:44:20 AM PDT by rx
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79 posted on 05/18/2023 8:51:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: deport
So "urgent" they won't explain what is urgent


80 posted on 05/18/2023 10:30:53 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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