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Maui residents who disobeyed barricade survived fires: AP
ap ^ | August 23, 2023 | Lauren Sforza

Posted on 08/23/2023 11:26:01 AM PDT by george76

Those who disobeyed the barricaded road closures during the Maui fires survived the disaster, while many of those who heeded orders to turn around perished in their cars and homes with no way out...

At least 114 people were killed in the fires earlier this month, and the FBI is estimating that up to 1,100 more are unaccounted for. Officials are facing increased scrutiny for the emergency response, including why the emergency sirens were not set off and whether closing the roads prevented people from getting to safety.

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Officials closed Lahaina Bypass Road due to the fires, blocking the only way out of Lahaina to the southern part of the island.

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One family swerved around the barricade set up to escape the flames, while another resident took a dirt road uphill to climb above the fire... However, many others who stayed in the cars on that road were stuck in a gridlock, with fires surrounding them on most sides

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Nate Baird and Courtney Stapleton recounted their experience to the outlet, saying they loaded the car up with their two sons, Baird’s mother and one dog to escape the flames. When they turned south to escape Lahaina, they were met with cones and were told to turn around to Lahaina, which was already burning.

Instead of turning around, they swerved past the cones and escaped to a neighboring town.

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we literally had minutes and one wrong turn. We would all be dead right now.”

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they had 10 more minutes, they could have saved children who were left home alone in their neighborhood during the fires.

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Kim Cuevas-Reyes said that she survived with her two sons by ignoring orders

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 0prah; barricade; burning; donutwatch; fire; fires; followingorders; hawaii; ignoring; ignoringorders; lahaina; lahainaburning; maui; mauifire; mauifires; mauiwildfires; oprahwinfrey; orders; respectmyauthority; roadclosed
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To: george76

If true, this was a pre-planned slaughter of innocent lives.

But, not one person will be punished for it.


21 posted on 08/23/2023 11:40:12 AM PDT by Kevin in California (EP)
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To: george76

Mr. Manuel, the water Czar, needs to be in prison. This coupled with the road closure and disregard for the dry brush build-up around Lahaina power lines by Maui Electric all contributed to the felony loss of life on Maui. My home for more than 20 years will never be the same.


22 posted on 08/23/2023 11:40:56 AM PDT by Kahuna
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To: ClearCase_guy

an estimated 1100 still considered missing after 2 weeks when an entire town is burned to the ground on an island about the size of Rhode Island. Yet death toll has not changed in a week and a half.

It’s crazy. This story screams wall to wall news coverage. A tragedy that involves the deaths of hundreds of children, IN THE UNITED STATES, and virtually no media hype.

Everytime I think my mind can’t possibly be boggled any longer by current events... the boggling keeps coming.


23 posted on 08/23/2023 11:41:38 AM PDT by BuckeyeGOP ( )
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To: george76

Reagan was right. The last thing you need to hear, “ I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”


24 posted on 08/23/2023 11:42:03 AM PDT by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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To: george76

Containers of ash should be sent to press offices.


25 posted on 08/23/2023 11:42:46 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: Ann Archy

Sheep


26 posted on 08/23/2023 11:42:49 AM PDT by RaginRak
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To: george76
I scoffed when Mrs. ZOOKER said the fire was deliberately set to clear the island and rebuild it as a private playground for the elites.

Now I'm not so sure.

27 posted on 08/23/2023 11:44:11 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: george76

We should follow this principle, never go where the gov’t wants you to go in an emergency or maybe at any time. Didn’t they have this same problem in Katrina? Common sense should be in order but a lot of times the crowd is wrong.


28 posted on 08/23/2023 11:44:20 AM PDT by Othniel77
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To: Ann Archy

Need you ask? Just look at who they elect.


29 posted on 08/23/2023 11:44:23 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Yeah, the democrat “authorities” tried to herd escaping people back upstairs.


30 posted on 08/23/2023 11:44:45 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: george76

The gubmint knows what is good for you better than you. How many perished because they obeyed stupid people?


31 posted on 08/23/2023 11:46:52 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: george76
Politics aside, that must've been absolutely horrific for everyone involved. The entire bunch of office holders, from Mayor on down, need to be held accountable.

But, they won't be. :(


32 posted on 08/23/2023 11:47:34 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Ann Archy

“Hawaiians must have the IQ s of MORONS !”

That’s a nasty comment and totally untrue. For years Hawaiians have been screwed by both political parties. They do not have a voting majority and have allowed liberals from the mainland to establish a good old boy powerhouse with one party rule. Virtually all the fat cat State politicians were off the Islands vacationing when the Maui fires occurred.


33 posted on 08/23/2023 11:47:44 AM PDT by Kahuna
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To: gathersnomoss

It makes zero sense to block escape routes.
Who ordered the road blocks? The chief of police? It seems every government official conspired to kill all those poor people. If the plan was to burn out the natives and claim their property, we will soon know.


34 posted on 08/23/2023 11:49:36 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: Magnum44

Yeah, any pinhead bureaucrats that stopped me from saving my life would die by my hand.


35 posted on 08/23/2023 11:50:05 AM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: Kahuna

Hawaiians had their legitimate monarchy overthrown, so that Mr. Dole could plant his pineapples.


36 posted on 08/23/2023 11:50:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Mistakes were made…”


37 posted on 08/23/2023 11:50:48 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: NWFree

“So dumb incompetent libtards prevented people from escaping and killed them”

Anybody who ordered, communicated or enforced barricades, should be tarred, feathered and hung by their necks until they be dead for their crimes.


38 posted on 08/23/2023 11:51:34 AM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: george76
Why would they barricade escape routes?
Unless they wanted people to be trapped.

39 posted on 08/23/2023 11:52:35 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They need to be hanged


40 posted on 08/23/2023 11:52:36 AM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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