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Maui residents who disobeyed barricade survived fires: AP
ap ^ | August 23, 2023 | Lauren Sforza

Posted on 08/23/2023 11:26:01 AM PDT by george76

Those who disobeyed the barricaded road closures during the Maui fires survived the disaster, while many of those who heeded orders to turn around perished in their cars and homes with no way out...

At least 114 people were killed in the fires earlier this month, and the FBI is estimating that up to 1,100 more are unaccounted for. Officials are facing increased scrutiny for the emergency response, including why the emergency sirens were not set off and whether closing the roads prevented people from getting to safety.

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Officials closed Lahaina Bypass Road due to the fires, blocking the only way out of Lahaina to the southern part of the island.

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One family swerved around the barricade set up to escape the flames, while another resident took a dirt road uphill to climb above the fire... However, many others who stayed in the cars on that road were stuck in a gridlock, with fires surrounding them on most sides

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Nate Baird and Courtney Stapleton recounted their experience to the outlet, saying they loaded the car up with their two sons, Baird’s mother and one dog to escape the flames. When they turned south to escape Lahaina, they were met with cones and were told to turn around to Lahaina, which was already burning.

Instead of turning around, they swerved past the cones and escaped to a neighboring town.

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we literally had minutes and one wrong turn. We would all be dead right now.”

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they had 10 more minutes, they could have saved children who were left home alone in their neighborhood during the fires.

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Kim Cuevas-Reyes said that she survived with her two sons by ignoring orders

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
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To: george76

Go ahead and fact check it:
Didn’t warn people with warning sirens
Turned off the water, even to fireman
Barricaded people from leaving disaster
Government benefited from death toll by taking property
Now media censorship and blaming on CO2 climate change.

There is absolutely no comparison to Katrina when:

People told to leave. Transportation available.
Nobody blocked exit
Nobody denied available services
Government didn’t benefit from death toll.
No censorship. Republicans to blame for climate change.

Liberals think Katrina worse but
This is probably the most preventable loss of life by negligent or malicious government in US history. It’s the poster child for why Socialism doesn’t work (paid for government services useless) and why it leads to censorship (government covering up facts) and government misdirection (climate change, not horrible decisions to blame).

Welcome to Fascist Government!!! “You will know them by what they do”


41 posted on 08/23/2023 11:53:49 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: ZOOKER

If not deliberate, then at the very least probably a “never let a crisis go to waste” opportunity for long waiting land investors.


42 posted on 08/23/2023 11:54:01 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: george76

Well, they couldn’t let the local riff-raff get into the richer areas of town. /s


43 posted on 08/23/2023 11:55:34 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: george76

Lesson learned. Never leave home unarmed.

Tell me I can’t get away from an inferno, and even declaring I have to turn around and go back?

If that’s really what happened, then it would be me shooting my way out of that inferno I suppose.

People who obeyed, died.


44 posted on 08/23/2023 11:56:17 AM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: Kahuna

Please name ONE REPUBLICAN in Hawaii!! ONE!! Anyone a d everyone who votes for Democrats are either MORONS or EVIL.


45 posted on 08/23/2023 11:58:48 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: All
"We're here from the Road Dept. and we're closing the road for your safety"
"We're here from Water Dept. and we're shutting off the water for equity".
"We're here from the Fed. Govt. and we sympathize because we had a kitchen fire once".
46 posted on 08/23/2023 11:59:29 AM PDT by BipolarBob (My urologist Dr. I. P. Freeley helped me and he can help you too.)
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To: george76

MFM.


47 posted on 08/23/2023 12:00:31 PM PDT by OKSooner (Maybe Quix was right about some stuff. Pronouns=(XY, XYim, XY's))
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To: Ann Archy
Please name ONE REPUBLICAN in Hawaii!! ONE!! Anyone a d everyone who votes for Democrats are either MORONS or EVIL.

They hold about 8 seats in the Hawaiian legislature, 8 of 76.

48 posted on 08/23/2023 12:00:53 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: george76
Short term PR problem over barricades killing off undesirables to make way for Schwabbville Beach, versus decades long evictions politics.

The NWO chose the first short term option.

49 posted on 08/23/2023 12:02:01 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: 1Old Pro

There most famous HI Republican was one of their first two senators: Hiram Fong, who supported Nixon.


50 posted on 08/23/2023 12:08:29 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( )
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To: ClearCase_guy
Charges of insurrection for those disobedient peons will be made as soon as they review the video. Then they will be rounded up like dogs. Maui Leftnicks have a smile--a sadistic smile--for their control over the masses. Just look at our Cheshire Cat, Biden:


51 posted on 08/23/2023 12:08:49 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: NWFree
So dumb incompetent libtards prevented people from escaping and killed them

And they refused to set off the sirens that warn of fires and tsunamis.

And they refused to turn on the water to fight the fire because in might not be equity.

52 posted on 08/23/2023 12:08:52 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: george76

Absolutely ! The Maui County Poli e Dept directly caused many deaths by enforcing their stupid barricades . “ Just following orders” claimed the officers on the scene . People should have crashed the barricades and totally bolted , regardless. It will all come out noe , but too late for those who have died from this cop stupidity


53 posted on 08/23/2023 12:10:58 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Pete Dovgan

I hate to say it but it was probably a mistake to make HI the 50th state in 1960, when it sent competing elector slates for VP Nixon and for John F. Kennedy, who was proclaimed the winner in the new state. HI did voted Republican for president at least twice, 1972 and 1984.


54 posted on 08/23/2023 12:11:08 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( )
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To: george76

55 posted on 08/23/2023 12:12:04 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: gitmo

And people in HI will continue to vote Democrat ad nauseum.


56 posted on 08/23/2023 12:12:12 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( )
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To: george76

Having lived on Oahu...

I can confidently say Hawaii is run by the most incompetent racist scumbags available. And the idiot Hawaiians vote for them over and over. Just look at Mazzie. It is incurable stupidity running those islands and that’s how the people of Hawaii want it.


57 posted on 08/23/2023 12:12:15 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: 1Old Pro

The HRP is an unmitigated disaster and has been for years


58 posted on 08/23/2023 12:12:37 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Organic Panic
Just look at Mazzie.

No thanks, and her voice is even worse.

59 posted on 08/23/2023 12:13:59 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: gitmo
Anyone who uses the word "equity" is either a real estate agent or a Marxist. The Marxists are really into real estate--the redistribution kind.
60 posted on 08/23/2023 12:14:00 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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