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Trump says Ukraine could have avoided conflict
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Posted on 09/18/2023 12:00:17 PM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook

Ukraine could have avoided hundreds of thousands of deaths and lost less land if it had reached a peace deal with Russia before the conflict began last February, former US President Donald Trump told NBC News in an interview aired on Sunday.

The loss of Ukrainian territory to Russia is “something that could have been negotiated,” Trump told NBC host Kristen Welker, adding that “a lot of people expected” Kiev to abandon its claims to “Crimea and other parts of the country” in exchange for peace.

“So they could have made a deal where there’s less territory [lost] than Russia has already taken,” Trump continued. “They could have made a deal where nobody was killed…they would have had a Ukrainian country. Now nobody even knows if Ukraine is going to be totally taken over.”

By “other parts of the country,” Trump was likely referring to the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, whose sovereignty Russian President Vladimir Putin recognized three days before Russia’s military operation in Ukraine began. Following referendums last September, both regions have now joined the Russian Federation, along with the formerly Ukrainian territories of Kherson and Zaporozhye. Crimea voted to rejoin Russia in 2014.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: angryneoconsbelow; angryputinfannyboys; appeasementwontwork; dreamer; fakenews; naive; neoconsvotedbiden; notourproblem; notourwar; outofcontext; rossiyasegodnya; russiatoday
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To: JonPreston
And did I mention he despises the Neocon wars you cheerlead for?

Grandpa always told me, “ya can’t fix Stupid,” and all I can wonder now is when you two met.

81 posted on 09/18/2023 1:19:27 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: canuck_conservative

You’re imposing on Russia the Cold War perspective of the Soviet Union, while in ring the behavior of NATO and the West that tends to provoke from Russia the very behavior we then perceive as aggressive. We don’t live in a comic book. The powers that be, which I’m sure you despise, manage us by influencing how we perceive events. Question everything they tell you is true. EVERYTHING.


82 posted on 09/18/2023 1:21:21 PM PDT by Palmetto State Conservative
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Oh boy, this time Trump has really sunk his re-election chances. Sure, thousands of lives couldve been saved, but...but... blue-and-yellow flag and stuff


83 posted on 09/18/2023 1:26:24 PM PDT by scottinoc
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To: Gunslingr3
suitable for framing


84 posted on 09/18/2023 1:28:33 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: entropy12

Agree-Poland has an excellent reason to do so-the disaster is happening right on their border, and they are taking in refugees, so they have a vested interest...


85 posted on 09/18/2023 1:29:53 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Gunslingr3

I your personal debt much bigger than your yearly income?
If yes, may be your grandpa had you in mind.
If not, they why you want USA to play world police with bankrupt Treasury?

Within 10 years, net interest costs on the national debt alone will exceed federal expenditures for Medicaid PLUS defense; and, over the next 30 years, these interest payments will be the biggest line item in the federal budget.

We are more broke than all G-20 countries.


86 posted on 09/18/2023 1:29:56 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trumpcrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
Trump says Ukraine could have avoided conflict

Darn that President Trump, he's right again!

87 posted on 09/18/2023 1:32:04 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Openurmind

North and south Korea is a good example...and BTW...Kissinger first said it...and then....backed off


88 posted on 09/18/2023 1:33:00 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: icclearly

Get over it. Those Ukes will soon be speaking Ruskie again — the ones that don’t or have not bailed out of what’s left of their little country led by a corrupt freak-show clown.

And the Rooskies will have a guerilla war an their hands bigger than the Afghan incursion. You ain’t fighting a bunch of goat herders with RPGs in Ukraine.


89 posted on 09/18/2023 1:36:46 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: canuck_conservative

Should an US President give American land for peace? Russia wants Alaska back.


90 posted on 09/18/2023 1:38:36 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Openurmind
"Wonder why this simple reality is just so hard to understand?"

Their ignorance is hard to rationalize since it's not as if this kind of crap hasn't been going on for decades here.

91 posted on 09/18/2023 1:39:00 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; canuck_conservative
Who are you going to vote for in the coming elections?

Obviously he's voting for Zelensky, Z gives free piano lessons.

92 posted on 09/18/2023 1:39:41 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Hey clowns and sycophants. NO country has the right to invade another without just cause. And “denazification” or whatever BS Russian propaganda used to justify it, is just that, BS.
Trump is wrong here. Just wrong.
Imagine us making an agreement with China to own Hawaii. How many of us would just sit back and say, well, there would be so much destruction if we fought back, so, OK!


93 posted on 09/18/2023 1:43:41 PM PDT by vpintheak (There is no Trans. There is only mentally ill)
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To: Starboard

“Biden was OK with a “minor incursion”.”

Actually, that is NOT true.


94 posted on 09/18/2023 1:46:31 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Palmetto State Conservative

#34: Nicely and accurately stated.


95 posted on 09/18/2023 1:53:30 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
"Land for peace" is always a losing proposition.


96 posted on 09/18/2023 1:54:15 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

He’s right again.


97 posted on 09/18/2023 1:54:34 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

“maybe Russia would not be so aggressive if NATO wasn’t adding nations after the fall of the USSR despite the Bush administration promising that not a single nation would join NATO after the cold war ended?”

not true! There was never such an agreement In fact, just the opposite, it was and is understood that NATO will continue to grow as it just did with Finland joining (Sweden will join soon as well)


98 posted on 09/18/2023 1:54:49 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: canuck_conservative
"if this is Trump’s foreign policy, then he just handed the Dems & their Big Media pals a club they will use to beat him"

A majority of Americans don't want another penny of their money going to Youcrayne, so this is a smart move on Trump's part.

Who really gives a damn what the Youke-loving, LGBTQWERT-loving, baby murder-loving, child-mutilator-loving, West-hating, Christian-loathing, leftist/globalist media has to say.

Not one more penny for the hyper-corrupt, money-laundering, child trafficking craphole of Youcrayne. The $100 billion being pissed away there can be far better spent on Americans. After all, it's Americans' money, not some Eastern European kleptocracy's to be spent on yachts, mansions, vodka, bling and hookers.

pfft

99 posted on 09/18/2023 1:58:31 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: mass55th

Bingo! We have a winner!


100 posted on 09/18/2023 2:01:05 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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