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Kamala Harris v. Gavin Newsom: The Coming Democratic Civil War
The Messenger ^ | November 25, 2023 | Keith Naughton

Posted on 11/26/2023 8:38:41 AM PST by Reno89519

The Democratic Party is united — for now. Fear and loathing of Donald Trump keeps the various Democratic factions in a precarious peace. But labor v. environment, Jewish vote v. Muslim vote, and center-left v. hardcore progressivism cannot remain at bay forever. The fiercest battle may well be the looming civil war between Vice President Kamala Harris and California Gov. Gavin Newsom for the party leadership once President Biden leaves the stage.

And it won’t be pretty.

When Biden named Harris his running mate, he conferred on her heir-apparent status. The pick made sense. VP nominees are mostly about pulling together party divisions or offsetting the nominee’s weaknesses. As an old, white male Catholic, Biden running with a minority female checked some important identity boxes. And, in 2020 with a campaign hobbled due to covid restrictions, Harris did just fine. The “not Trump” campaign worked.

However, given an opportunity to establish herself as the next Democratic hope, Harris has proven rather maladroit. Something about her isn’t quite right. Her speeches are mediocre, with poorly thought-out ad libs. Her awkwardness with voters is positively Hillary Clintonesque. After spending her life in the progressive hothouse of California, Harris has shown little ability to build appeal in the other more centrist 49 states. Given the unpleasant portfolio of illegal immigration early in the administration, she failed to distinguish herself. If she has any real policy responsibility today, it’s not apparent.

But what must rankle Harris the most and speaks to how badly she must be viewed in Democratic power corridors is the utter lack of interest in her replacing Biden on the ticket. Joe Biden’s numbers are bad, very bad. His approval has been under water for the past two years. He is running behind Trump on multiple ballot test polls — despite Trump’s myriad problems. The double-minority woman Harris replacing Biden should be the talk of the town. But it isn’t.

Her polling tells the tale: While Biden is an abysmal 14 points negative on the RealClearPolitics approval average, Harris is worse at negative 17.6 — worse than Trump (negative 16.6). In YouGov polling, Harris is 13 points down on approval (Biden is down 10 points) with just 40% approval against Biden’s 42%. She has just a 3-point lead on approval among Black voters but lags 8 points with Hispanics. Independents approve at just 26%, against Biden at 31%.

Harris should take comfort in the fact that there is nobody in the D.C. political scene that is a real threat. The most popular Democrat, Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), is even older than Biden. The septuagenarian Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is getting there. Pete Buttigieg’s (D-Ind.) tenure at Transportation has been miserable. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.) are nowhere to be found.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; democrat; harris; newsom
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To: Publius

Good post of a little known incident.

Cannot be duplicated now.
Soros henchman to Biden: “Are you out of your -——— mind?”
Biden: “Impossible. I’d have to have one to go out of it.”


81 posted on 11/26/2023 11:27:04 AM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging.It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: Wallace T.

Manchin would love that, his dream come true!
However, an old straight white guy (He’s 76!) at the top of the ticket from a state he won’t even carry, I doubt it.
I don’t think pairing him a minority, racial, sexual or interplanetary will matter. If they make any change, they will find a way to go with Newsom and Buttgiggily. Maybe stick with Biden and go with Buttgiggily.


82 posted on 11/26/2023 11:27:19 AM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: Publius

Plus Mayor Daley was a vile anti-semite which would fit in perfectly with today. There are scenes on such documentaries as one on PBS that clearly show him cupping his hands and heckling the speaker Abraham Ribicoff at the Dem Nat Convention with shouted dirty names against Jews.

Ribicoff was a former S Senator and confidant of John F. Kennedy, serving in his cabinet. He represented the Eastern side of the Dem Party, not to be confused with the anti-black dixiecrats and Daley’s machine in Chicago.


83 posted on 11/26/2023 11:34:06 AM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging.It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: frank ballenger
Kamala could be on top of the ticket, with a stronger candidate for veep.

Strength on issues means less than youthful optics and top notch deceit in advertising (and tons of cash.) Sad to say.

84 posted on 11/26/2023 12:07:12 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: Seaplaner

I cannot believe the Dems would allow the hyena at the top. She was a proven vote loser and had to quit the embarrassing primaries as she went into Pence popularity territory.

But a female and a part black candidate sticks like oil on your hands and is hard to subtly get rid of. Lucky for them she isn’t gay. Or a Hamas member.


85 posted on 11/26/2023 12:13:01 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging.It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: hillarys cankles

He didn’t destroy California. Wait until the media spins the story of how Gavin saved California.


86 posted on 11/26/2023 12:18:50 PM PST by Kozy (new age haruspex; "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.")
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Ping for later


87 posted on 11/26/2023 12:24:19 PM PST by llevrok (“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell)
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To: Reno89519

There will definitely not be a democrat civil war. Democrats are not that stupid. That is for Republicans only. And it is not democratic, it is just plain democrat. Democratic refers to a type of government. Democrat refers to a corrupt, traitorous political party.


88 posted on 11/26/2023 12:31:56 PM PST by odawg
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To: frank ballenger
I should note that Mayor Daley was a fervent dove on the issue of Vietnam. Once LBJ committed to the war, he fell in line, but at the beginning he had his doubts.

He said to LBJ, "I wish to God at least one of those Harvard eggheads you inherited from Kennedy had run for dogcatcher."

89 posted on 11/26/2023 12:46:19 PM PST by Publius
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To: Leaning Right
You're right.

Trump didn't scratch and claw his way upward through the political ranks of any party.

In this way, Trump is the Echo of Our Framers Uncorrupted President.

I will never vote again for another Establishment Republican.

90 posted on 11/26/2023 1:12:15 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: dead

Caution floors may be slick.


91 posted on 11/26/2023 2:02:57 PM PST by Vaduz (....)
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To: JBW1949

What happened to Edwards? Did he get married to his squeeze?


92 posted on 11/26/2023 2:36:39 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: alternatives?

I have no idea...


93 posted on 11/26/2023 3:10:24 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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