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To: Mariner
Pure stupidity. Even if it's realistic (and I have always though there would have to be some concessions), it's simply stupid to publicly make concessions before negotiations have even started.

Just another sign that the Ukrainians should take no advice regarding the conduct of war from an American elite that has lost virtually every war it has fought in the past 80 years.

68 posted on 12/10/2023 12:38:20 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

We have been unmatched on the battlefield, don’t confuse political losing/withdrawals with what is happening to the Russian military in Ukraine.


74 posted on 12/10/2023 12:53:02 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: pierrem15

“Just another sign that the Ukrainians should take no advice regarding the conduct of war from an American elite that has lost virtually every war it has fought in the past 80 years. “

They can keep their own counsel when they pay their own bills.

Which will be soon, when the US stops paying. Then they can do whatever the hell they want and wish.


83 posted on 12/10/2023 2:02:57 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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