Posted on 12/10/2023 10:42:38 AM PST by Mariner
Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) said Sunday that the United States needs to accept that Ukraine will likely need to “cede some territory” to Russia to end the fighting.
Vance told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union” that he is opposed to sending more aid to Ukraine because he does not believe the country will ever be able to overpower Russia. He questioned why sending billions in aid to Ukraine is going to help the country at this point in its war against Russia since previous aid has yet to end the war.
“What’s in America’s best interest is to accept Ukraine is going to have to cede some territory to the Russians and we need to bring this war to a close,” Vance said. “But when I think about the great human tragedy here, hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans innocent have been killed in this conflict, the thing that’s in our interest and in theirs is to stop the killing.”
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“The idea that Ukraine was going to throw Russia back to the 1991 border was preposterous, nobody actually believed it.”
“So what we’re saying to the president and really to the entire world is you need to articulate what the ambition is, what is $61 billion going to accomplish that $100 billion hasn’t,” he added.
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I sold him my 12’ aluminum boat last week. Do you want me to post the pictures of the transaction?
It was just sitting in my backyard. Some little guy dressed shabby knocks on me door, and inquires. What’s a good Red Blooded American supposed to do? I ask ya?
See a sucker. Take a sucker.
Trump 2024🇺🇸
At least I made a $ , as opposed to a foreign grifter.🕺🏻
Plus, "we really showed those FAGS!!!"
America is crumbling from within. We'll never be strong unless we prioritize and fix our internal problems.
I knew you made it up but it didn’t occur to me that you do that on purpose.
“ what’s gonna prevent Russia from trying this again in the future?”
Nothing.
What conclusions do you draw from that? The strong do what they wish, the weak do what they must.
And the Budapest Memorandum to the START 1 Treaty.
Nice try, kid; and your talking points go nowhere.
You specifically said that Russia offered to end the war back in March ‘22 (i.e., less than a month after its re-invasion of Ukraine) by agreeing that Ukraine would lose NONE of its territory (i.e., Russia would completely vacate all of Ukrainian territory and would make no claim to that territory).
Prove your claim. Post some supporting evidence.
Just another sign that the Ukrainians should take no advice regarding the conduct of war from an American elite that has lost virtually every war it has fought in the past 80 years.
“Reagan made an agreement with Russia not to arm countries on Russia’s border in order for Russia to leave the European countries it was occupying.”
Well, at least you are admitting that Russia and the Soviet Union were one and the same.
We were in on that agreement, which is most certainly why it was signed, so its enforcement lay on our shoulders
Well, YOU clearly lost your argument.
All that because someone asked for a source.
We have been unmatched on the battlefield, don’t confuse political losing/withdrawals with what is happening to the Russian military in Ukraine.
Yea. I figured the slower IQ on your side would need it hand feed. 🤡
This is one of those think it but don’t say it moments. Being a Senator he should know better
The Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation was an agreement between Ukraine and Russia, signed in 1997, which fixed the principle of strategic partnership, the recognition of the inviolability of existing borders, and respect for territorial integrity and mutual ...
Russian–Ukrainian Friendship Treaty - Wikipedia
I already mentioned that to the original poster in my post #58. We’ll see if it has any impact of that FReeper.
Neither Russia or Ukraine will be allowed to end this war, if either tries to end this, it will only result in escalation.
The only possibility to stop this is a President Trump.
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