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Senate Republican says US needs to accept Ukraine will ‘cede some territory’ to Russia
The Hill via Yahoo ^ | December 10th, 2023 | Lauren Sforza

Posted on 12/10/2023 10:42:38 AM PST by Mariner

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To: ansel12

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61 posted on 12/10/2023 12:31:47 PM PST by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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To: ought-six
The pro-Russia FReepers will insist, “But this time it will be different!”

Plus, "we really showed those FAGS!!!"

62 posted on 12/10/2023 12:32:06 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: Redmen4ever
It’s because of American weakness that the world is in flames, not because of American strength.

America is crumbling from within. We'll never be strong unless we prioritize and fix our internal problems.

63 posted on 12/10/2023 12:33:51 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: MotorCityBuck

I knew you made it up but it didn’t occur to me that you do that on purpose.


64 posted on 12/10/2023 12:34:02 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Svartalfiar

“ what’s gonna prevent Russia from trying this again in the future?”

Nothing.

What conclusions do you draw from that? The strong do what they wish, the weak do what they must.


65 posted on 12/10/2023 12:35:49 PM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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To: devere

And the Budapest Memorandum to the START 1 Treaty.


66 posted on 12/10/2023 12:37:09 PM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: hardspunned

Nice try, kid; and your talking points go nowhere.

You specifically said that Russia offered to end the war back in March ‘22 (i.e., less than a month after its re-invasion of Ukraine) by agreeing that Ukraine would lose NONE of its territory (i.e., Russia would completely vacate all of Ukrainian territory and would make no claim to that territory).

Prove your claim. Post some supporting evidence.


67 posted on 12/10/2023 12:37:26 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Mariner
Pure stupidity. Even if it's realistic (and I have always though there would have to be some concessions), it's simply stupid to publicly make concessions before negotiations have even started.

Just another sign that the Ukrainians should take no advice regarding the conduct of war from an American elite that has lost virtually every war it has fought in the past 80 years.

68 posted on 12/10/2023 12:38:20 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: blueheron2

“Reagan made an agreement with Russia not to arm countries on Russia’s border in order for Russia to leave the European countries it was occupying.”

Well, at least you are admitting that Russia and the Soviet Union were one and the same.


70 posted on 12/10/2023 12:40:46 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Svartalfiar
... The bear already promised not to invade if Ukraine gave up their Soviet nukes, and we see how that eventually turned out....

We were in on that agreement, which is most certainly why it was signed, so its enforcement lay on our shoulders

71 posted on 12/10/2023 12:43:19 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: MotorCityBuck; ansel12

Well, YOU clearly lost your argument.


72 posted on 12/10/2023 12:43:57 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: MotorCityBuck

All that because someone asked for a source.


73 posted on 12/10/2023 12:50:17 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: pierrem15

We have been unmatched on the battlefield, don’t confuse political losing/withdrawals with what is happening to the Russian military in Ukraine.


74 posted on 12/10/2023 12:53:02 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Yea. I figured the slower IQ on your side would need it hand feed. 🤡


75 posted on 12/10/2023 12:54:41 PM PST by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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To: Mariner

This is one of those think it but don’t say it moments. Being a Senator he should know better


76 posted on 12/10/2023 12:56:51 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: ought-six

The Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation was an agreement between Ukraine and Russia, signed in 1997, which fixed the principle of strategic partnership, the recognition of the inviolability of existing borders, and respect for territorial integrity and mutual ...

Russian–Ukrainian Friendship Treaty - Wikipedia


77 posted on 12/10/2023 1:17:16 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Any one, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities!!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
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To: Grampa Dave

I already mentioned that to the original poster in my post #58. We’ll see if it has any impact of that FReeper.


78 posted on 12/10/2023 1:24:39 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Mariner

Neither Russia or Ukraine will be allowed to end this war, if either tries to end this, it will only result in escalation.

The only possibility to stop this is a President Trump.


80 posted on 12/10/2023 1:36:06 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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