[rlmorel]

People don't think Trump is going to be vindicated. They may hope, however faintly, that he may be vindicated.

But this is just hope.

And that is quite different from "thinking" he will be vindicated.

The fact is, and most intelligent people understand it, that we no longer live in a constitutional republic.

You are entitled to your opinion. The fact is, Trump is the only one who has shown a willingness and real propensity to deviate from Deep State orthodoxy.

None of the other candidates have demonstrated with action that they are anything more than talk, and there is every indication they will be more of the same.

And the fact that people I regard as Domestic Enemies of this Republic have criminally broken every law they felt they needed to from election law to constitutional law to immigration law in order to keep him from regaining the Office of The Presidency, and have done so with open impunity with HIM being the ONLY one to actually stand up to them and fight back (Ramaswamy's declaration about the Colorado ballot not withstanding) is why people back him.

Not because they are the same type of jackasses who had stars in their eyes over vermin like Obama, and blindly follow celebrities.

I support him because:

• He moved the Embassy in Israel. Every single expert said the world would blow up if he did it. All the elites said the world would be engulfed in the fires of war. But he ignored them and just did it. As he said that he would.

• He withdrew from the Paris Climate Accord. As he said that he would.

• He forced a renegotiation of the Universal Postal Union (no minor thing, it made it nearly impossible to mail packages from the USA to China, but they could send the same package to the USA dirt cheap) This is just an example of how Trump stood up for Americans in his battles with the ChiCom regime. This is one example 99% of Americans don't know about. And there are many others.

• He fought the Democrat Party and his OWN party to get ANY funding to put up a border wall, and had to settle for scraping money off the top because his own filthy party wouldn't even provide any assistance. Yet he still got that wall started carrying the barnacles of the entire federal government on his back that intentionally slowed him down.

• There was a real commitment to controlling the border, an his leadership on this shows in the statistics. And he was fought every step of the way.

• He brokered the Abraham Accords.

• He kept us out of war.

These things are just a few examples of why people, disparaged as shallow celebrity fans, support Trump. It isn't because he is some kind of reality show celebrity who has orange skin, silly hair, is built like a refrigerator, and talks funny.

And yeah. He shoots from the hip. Says things he shouldn't. Can be vulgar and crass. Puts too much trust in people he hires to provide him with information he needs to make decisions as an outsider. The President before Trump was regarded (with help from every angle) as smooth, well-spoken, unvulgar, thoughtful, and hired people ideologically aligned with him.

And look at the level of hideous damage that smooth talking, political policy wonk has done to this country. Perhaps fatal. But he looked good to some, not like that uncouth slob Trump. So I look at that and utterly reject that in a candidate if that is all they have.

Donald Trump is supported by people because of the things I outlined above.

Because, at a fundamental level, like him or not, he is authentic. He is who he is, both good and bad. He isn't sticking his finger in the air to make decisions.

[linedrive]

A very thoughtful response to what is obviously a contentious point.

I do disagree about Trump supporters impression of what is taking place in the courts. Unfortunately, we all are going to discover the true nature of this country’s character in the next year.
So many things to disrupt an election process are at work - the vulgarity and crudeness of Trump (and associates) behavior makes it impossible to have our side coalesce behind the man - this is what I see as very different from 2016.
You say people are intelligent, perhaps but they are not critical thinkers. Also, there are some in government now fighting the Deep State - Trump’s behavior is shutting them out of any part of the process to gain political power. Perhaps that is the intention.

My fear is when all civility breaks down (pushed by another fraudulent election if we can go that long) will we be able to ‘coalesce’ our efforts then? Or will we be left with the names people were called for supporting the wrong person? Help me to recall this happening inside either party prior to Trump entering the game.
I don’t want him to go prison (it is a sham); I want him to express ideas and name people that will help him get it done. I will vote for him if he is the candidate allowed to run - there are serious questions he should answer before getting that chance - looks like they will never be asked.
And many people are perfectly fine with that.

[freepersup]

100% What you posted and a whole lot more.

Worth repeating...

And the fact that people I regard as Domestic Enemies of this Republic have criminally broken every law they felt they needed to from election law to constitutional law to immigration law in order to keep him from regaining the Office of The Presidency, and have done so with open impunity with HIM being the ONLY one to actually stand up to them and fight back (Ramaswamy's declaration about the Colorado ballot not withstanding) is why people back him.