Goodness, the goal of vaccines is to try to mimic a case of the actual virus as much as possible. One does not have a lot of synapsis’ firing to think a natural infection will not produce the most robust immune response.
Hmm... I didn’t realize Seth MacFarlane was that stupid. Oh well Family Guy is still a pretty funny show.
So Seth isn’t cognizant of the fact that millions of ppl have contracted CoVID even after the vaccine? The vaccine also requires multiple boosters to remain “effective.” Neither one of those statements of fact is true of any other childhood immunization in our history. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. Seth is a buffoon.
In contrast, MacFarlane challenged the validity of natural immunity, citing personal acquaintances who, he claimed, contracted COVID-19 multiple times, positing this as evidence of a lack of immunity. He contended, “You’ve had Covid five times. That’s not natural immunity. There’s no immunity there.”
How do you like to live with that amount of stupid floating about in your head?
I was shocked. McFarlane I would have figured would be more independent minded. But he was all onboard with govt propaganda....which of course means he’s ultimately a hard lefty.
As a rule, I never drink and debate. Ol Mr. Maher likes his whiskey a bit too much methinks.
The science tells us about the efficacy of the vaccine versus catching Covid for prevention of future disease.
First, I must point out that the antivax narrative seems to be that getting immunity is an important stand-alone health goal. It is not. Immunity functions to prevent or greatly reduce the severity of disease. If you believe that a disease is so dangerous that you need to be immune from it, but your method of becoming immune is to catch the disease, there is something seriously wrong with your logic circuits (to say the least).
The vaccine is designed to induce the production of antibodies that knock out the function of the spike protein while it is on the surface of the virus.
When a person gets sick with Covid, they might not have an immune response at all. Autopsies have shown that lymph nodes in fatal cases of Covid were destroyed by infecting viruses. Or, if they have an immune response, it isn’t to the spike protein as it exists on the surface of the virus. The spike protein both is cut and changes shape when the virus uses it to get inside a cell. The immune response during infection can target any of the 29 proteins of the virus. And even if it does target the spike, it is targeting the used spike fragments left over after the virus enters the cell. Antibodies against used spike protein aren’t as effective as antibodies against the unused spikes covering the virus.
It’s quite true that someone who keeps catching Covid over and over (and still refuses to get vaccinated) is not exactly a ringing endorsement of disease-induced immunity. Because SARS-CoV-2 viruses infect several organs and many of those organs (like the heart) do not heal rapidly, the damage caused by repeated Covid infections is cumulative. It’s much better to just get vaccinated.
Some people are susceptible to acquiring Covid regardless of how many times they’ve been vaccinated. I’ve never had Covid... Didn’t acquire it before being vaccinated, have been vaccinated 3 times and I have never acquired it since.
Does that mean that getting vaccinated 3 times is the key?
I know people who have never been vaccinated and never got it... I know people who’ve never been vaccinated and got it... There doesn’t appear to be a rhyme or reason to the transmission of this virus. It’s affects are seemingly mild for most people... That should’ve been established from the very start and the nonsense of locking down and destroying our economy for the sake of the immune compromised could’ve been avoided.
I’m with Maher on this one...
Seth is nothing more than the stereotypical atheist troll on Reddit. Just watch 8 million ways to die in the west where his character breaks the 4th wall and laments that people were stupid because they didn’t believe in “Science”.
Here he demonstrates, again, that he’s the perfect NPC and can only regurgitate “science” as its dictated to him and can only hold dictat views.
For those who don’t understand “natural immunity” - here’s the thing. Vaccines only work because they use the “natural immunity” in our bodies to recognize dead viruses and train our immune systems to go after the live viruses when/if they appear.
Our bodies do the same thing when live viruses appear to without vaccines - but you take the damage from the live viruses while learning to battle it.
So if Seth here doesn’t believe in “natural immunity” then he’s effectively saying that vaccines can NEVER work. (And Herr Dr. Fauci said basically the same thing)
The reason people keep getting reinfected (and this applies to the vaccinated as well) is that ... ITS THE FRIGGIN FLU! As such it evolves and changes with every season and our bodies don’t recognize it and... get it again...
Here, again, Seth, self-proclaimed SCIENCE(tm) believer and atheist doesn’t understand that his basic axiom, evolution, is in play here. (This is also why everyone needs to get a new flu vaccine every year - because big pharma has to whip up a batch based on what they THINK will be the prominent strain to hit the US every year)
The statistics are in - While COVID was a bad flu strain it still only had about a 1.2% death rate among both vaccinated and unvaccinated people. (normal flu season being ~ .5% )
Once covid evolved into its non-lethal form (as ALL flu viruses have done over the millenia) its death rate is no more/worse than the regular flu.
The question is - by locking everybody down and putting the sick in with the old did we prevent covid from evolving into its non-lethal form for 2 years? Had normal flu precautions been taken and the old and sick had been protected while the healthy were allowed to behave as normal, would the typical flu season have occurred and covid would’ve run its course in the usual 6 months? We’ll have to leave that one to the historians.
I guarantee those multiple infected acquaintances he speaks of were fully vaxxed too but to consider a compromised immune system as a result of that is just a bridge too far for McFarlane. He should stick to comedy and cartoons.
What a dumbass. I'm sure he never EVER gets a cold anymore either.
There are more than 200 different types of viruses that can cause a cold. The coronavirus appears to me to be another virus, like the cold virus. (you get natural immunity to each variety of virus after your immune system defeats the infection)
Therefore: well, let’s enjoy these morons continue to try to educate the masses.