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Trump Must Pay Half a Billion Dollars Before He Can Appeal New York Decision
Breitbart ^ | 02/19/2024 | JOEL B. POLLAK

Posted on 02/19/2024 1:35:33 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Former President Donald Trump must pay nearly half a billion dollars as a bond to New York State before he can appeal the ruling by Judge Arthur Engoron last week that he must pay $354 million in fines — over $450 million, with interest — for fraud.

Critics have noted that Trump is the only person ever to be sued under an obscure New York fraud statute that does not require any harm be done, and that effectively criminalizes the everyday practice of real estate valuations in negotiations with banks.

Though Attorney General Letitia James — who ran for office promising to target Trump — claimed that no one is above the law, her case against Trump marks the only such case in the history of the state. And the staggering fine is likewise unprecedented.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: appeal; billion; bond; catloser; catowner; harassment; lawfare; newyork; persecution; tds; trump; trumpbond; trumpfine; trumppersecution; unconstitutional
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

“Will Republicans begin lawfare?”

They would have to grow a set to do that.


261 posted on 02/20/2024 8:25:34 PM PST by DaiHuy (I support LGBTQ. (Lets Get Biden to Quit.))
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To: FreeReign

“You don’t think Trump could request a stay and an appeal on constitutional grounds directly to SCOTUS? Of course they could.”

No. He cannot. Underlining doesn’t help.


262 posted on 02/20/2024 8:27:49 PM PST by CraigEsq (,)
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To: mware

“He has to pay DAILY interest on the fine.”

Judgments in NY accrue 9% annual simple interest. But he is likely on the hook for interest as of the date the lawsuit was filed.


263 posted on 02/20/2024 8:29:11 PM PST by CraigEsq (,)
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To: FreeReign

28 U.S. Code § 1257 - State courts; certiorari

(a) Final judgments or decrees rendered by the highest court of a State in which a decision could be had, may be reviewed by the Supreme Court by writ of certiorari where the validity of a treaty or statute of the United States is drawn in question or where the validity of a statute of any State is drawn in question on the ground of its being repugnant to the Constitution, treaties, or laws of the United States, or where any title, right, privilege, or immunity is specially set up or claimed under the Constitution or the treaties or statutes of, or any commission held or authority exercised under, the United States.

(b) For the purposes of this section, the term “highest court of a State” includes the District of Columbia Court of Appeals.


264 posted on 02/20/2024 8:37:05 PM PST by CraigEsq (,)
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To: CraigEsq
You don’t think Trump could request a stay and an appeal on constitutional grounds directly to SCOTUS? Of course he could.

No. He cannot. Underlining doesn’t help.

uscourts.gov

You're beyond help.

265 posted on 02/20/2024 9:09:26 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I would think he should just apply directly to the Supreme Court for relief, since the entire state is denying him several of his Constitutional rights. Let the Supreme Court go on record that the rule of law is over in this country, so we can get this show on the road.


266 posted on 02/21/2024 7:29:44 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: FreeReign

I am assuming Craig went to law school. I went to law school. You’re demonstrating that you did not. Just stop. It’s okay to be upset. But your anger and frustration doesn’t change the fact that there is no immediate, backdoor access to any federal court, much less the Supreme Court, in this case.


267 posted on 02/21/2024 7:51:32 AM PST by mn-bush-man
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Makes as much sense as being required to be executed before appealing the execution.

Evil needs to be extinguished with prejudice.

268 posted on 02/21/2024 8:00:06 AM PST by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: FreeReign

“You’re beyond help.”

You and the armchair lawyers around here who have no idea what they’re talking about do nothing but hurt the conservative cause by spewing random nonsense like this.

There is a PROCEDURE that MUST be followed for the supreme court to take an appeal of a case. Those procedures are codified in federal law and the Supreme Court rules of procedure. The court will NEVER take a case from a state court except the state’s supreme court (see the statute previously posted, 28 U.S.C. § 1257) and will only take a case from a federal court before a decision of a circuit court of appeals in extraordinarily rare circumstances (Supreme Court rules 11 and 18).

Period, full stop, end of story. Please learn just a LITTLE bit maybe before commenting random crap like this.


269 posted on 02/21/2024 8:09:25 AM PST by CraigEsq (,)
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To: kiryandil

So there’s a nuance here that’s not being properly elucidated by anyone. Trump doesn’t have to post anything to appeal, in theory. He needs to post the money or the bond to stop the judgment from being executed against him pending the determination of his appeal. See CPLR 5519(a)(2).

So for everyone saying there’s no way the average person would be able to appeal a judgment of $400 Million so they’d never be able to appeal...the average person wouldn’t be able to have $400 million collected from him so there wouldn’t be a need to post a $400 million bond to stay enforcement of the judgment pending appeal. But in this unusual set of circumstances, the state actually could force that money from Trump, so he has to do it, or the state can take his money before the appeal is decided.


270 posted on 02/21/2024 8:16:32 AM PST by CraigEsq (,)
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To: CraigEsq

“So there’s a nuance here that’s not being properly elucidated by anyone. Trump doesn’t have to post anything to appeal, in theory.”

I agree with you. I gave some more detail here:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4218547/posts?page=145#145

I’ll add: The two judgments against Trump in favor of E. Jean Carroll were in federal court. Even though the court sits in Manhattan, the procedures are governed by federal law, which governs every federal court in the country. The federal courts’ rules are similar to New York’s. Trump has already posted the undertaking for the appeal from the first Carroll judgment and will probably do the same for the second.


271 posted on 02/21/2024 9:09:02 AM PST by Eagle Forgotten
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To: CraigEsq; Eagle Forgotten

Thanks for shedding more light on this!


272 posted on 02/21/2024 9:14:18 AM PST by kiryandil
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To: mbj

You speak the truth.

Judge Erdogan would claim he does, too.

But he doesn’t follow the spirit of truth, therefore he cannot speak it.


273 posted on 02/21/2024 9:49:08 AM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

“ When the defeat of the deep state is fully recognized, we will see how easy it was.”

Until then, people rot in jail. Appeals take a few years.


274 posted on 02/21/2024 9:54:43 AM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Chgogal

Yes, we have brave patriots wrongly incarcerated.

But the rotting happens not in their souls, but in the souls of those who accompany evil.


275 posted on 02/21/2024 9:57:38 AM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution states: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted”.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt8-3/ALDE_00000962/

Exodus 23:3 NKJV
You shall not show partiality to a poor man in his dispute.

Exodus 30:15 NKJV
The rich shall not give more and the poor shall not give less than half a shekel, when you give an offering to the LORD, to make atonement for yourselves.

Proverbs 11:1 NKJV
Dishonest scales are an abomination to the LORD, But a just weight is His delight.

This ruling is flagrantly unjust.


276 posted on 02/21/2024 10:06:49 AM PST by unlearner (I, Robot: I think I finally understand why Dr. Lanning created me... ;-)
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To: edie1960

There’s a gofundme page for Trump, and people are giving generously, but this is a HUGE amount. Check out this site.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/stand-with-trump-raise-the-settlement


277 posted on 02/21/2024 10:14:04 AM PST by keats5
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To: CraigEsq
The court will NEVER take a case from a state court except the state’s supreme court.

I can give you an example of a 2022/2023 Colorado case where a state supreme court denied a petition for review and the US Supreme court took the case from the lower court.

278 posted on 02/21/2024 12:13:24 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: CraigEsq
So for everyone saying there’s no way the average person would be able to appeal a judgment of $400 Million so they’d never be able to appeal...the average person wouldn’t be able to have $400 million collected from him so there wouldn’t be a need to post a $400 million bond to stay enforcement of the judgment pending appeal.

The "average person" of course doesn't have $400 million but they would stand to have what ever money they do have collected to stay enforcement.

279 posted on 02/21/2024 12:22:55 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Lazamataz

280 posted on 02/21/2024 1:02:52 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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