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Trump is wrong: abortion opponents are looking for a national leader
Fox News ^ | April 9, 2024 | Marjorie Dannenfelser (SBA President)

Posted on 04/10/2024 6:43:05 PM PDT by Reno89519

By forming the Supreme Court majority that would finally reverse Roe v. Wade and restore the right of the people and their elected representatives to protect unborn children and their mothers in the law, President Trump can truly be called the most consequential pro-life president in history.

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Since the 2022 midterms, however, a narrative has taken hold that the life issue costs Republicans elections and is better left to the states, anyway – a narrative that threatens this great accomplishment. With policy platforms suddenly having very real consequences, many candidates became fearful, listened to consultants and opted for the "ostrich strategy" of burying their heads in the sand. These candidates fared badly.

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Now, in the midst of the 2024 campaign, President Trump's long-awaited announcement of his stance tragically pigeonholes abortion as a matter of states’ rights. It has met with disappointment from the pro-life community and the millions of Americans who are looking for a national leader who can build consensus and stand up to the pro-abortion extremism of Joe Biden and congressional Democrats.

It would be a disaster to cede a winnable fight to Biden and the radically pro-abortion Democrats, who unapologetically push their extreme agenda on every American. We can’t quit working to defeat them in the battleground states that will decide control of the White House and Congress, and the SBA Pro-Life America team remains focused on reaching 10 million voters – four million at their doors. As always, the key to changing hearts, minds and votes is contrast with the Democrat Party position of abortion any time for any reason.

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... President Trump and the GOP should embrace and fight for this consensus – not abandon the fight nationally. Embracing this position is both smart policy and smart politics.

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(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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To: Reno89519
Trump stood before Congress and said “And let us reaffirm a fundamental truth: All children — born and unborn — are made in the holy image of God,” he said.

That's a leader!!!

SCOTUS in overturning Roe v Wade said it "was returning the power to the states". And I think by that statement SCOTUS implied, it's not a federal power. So it would probably take an amendment to pass a national ban on abortion.

Meanwhile Trump needs to win elections. Leaving it in states hands, makes Trump good with states that want to ban abortions. And also good with states that want to permit abortions.

There is no doubt in my mind that given the statement he made before Congress that Trump would sign a federal ban. But it's likely without an amendment, it would be ruled unconstitutional.

It's possible that by linking a federal ban with sanctity of human life, that a Federal ban might stick. But there is no point in fighting that right now.

Trump has already proven himself both in his comments to Congress and in his SCOTUS picks. Anyone else spouting anti-abortion rhetoric is at best unproven.

And what's the point of this article now that Trump is the Republican presumptive nominee? There is no one else running. So this is just a hit piece to try to make anti-abortionists unhappy with Trump.

81 posted on 04/11/2024 1:37:14 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Reno89519

Democrats and Republicans, like Pence/Graham just want to keep the issue as a political football so they can fundraise on it while doing nothing about it.

Even if you get a national consensus of 15 weeks, candidates will run on increasing or decreasing that .

We do not need such a national focus on one issue.

It belongs to the states where we can slowly turn the tide, just as we are slowly turning the tide on gun control legislation towards the second amendment at the state level.

Do not let camera-hungry politicians in DC near this issue. They have never been serious about fixing it, just fundraising off it.


82 posted on 04/11/2024 1:57:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: Reno89519

No. It’s a state issue,.


83 posted on 04/11/2024 3:28:17 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Reno89519

No. What Trump did was exactly right and it’s why people like Lindsey are so pissed. Trump diffused their bomb they used to get dems out to vote in 2022. Lindsey though he could use the issue to boost democrat turnout for the presidential election by trying to paint Trump as rabidly anti-abortion, by spouting off before the election on how “we” would ban all abortions.


84 posted on 04/11/2024 3:56:08 AM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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To: Reno89519

Vent:
He can anyone kill a baby... For Any reason.

I’d guess men are not as knowledgeable as women are on abortion
However, no one has seen the horror of killing a baby, except those who do the process and maybe the one on the table.
Money.. Harvest organs..
Ignorance allows a person to play with pregnancy and get rid of the evidence.
Selfishness shuts the mind to reality.


85 posted on 04/11/2024 4:16:38 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Jonty30

THE 10TH AMENDMENT STATES RIGHTS OVER POWERS A FEDERAL LAW. TRY READING IT,


86 posted on 04/11/2024 4:25:55 AM PDT by GailA (Land Grabs, Poisoned Food, KILL the COWS, Bidenomics=BIDEN DEPRESSION. STAGNATION)
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To: Reno89519

“...we need to have a national discussion to find a middle ground, an nationally acceptable solution, which is what Trump promised several weeks ago.”

Okay, what would that be, according to your superior light. Inform us.


87 posted on 04/11/2024 4:41:16 AM PDT by odawg
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To: GailA

I believe that is my position. The Federal government has supremacy in law in regards to its 18 enumerated powers plus what states may have given up since the Constitution was ratified.

Otherwise, states reign supreme within their borders.


88 posted on 04/11/2024 4:51:13 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: Reno89519

Go to dailywire.com.


89 posted on 04/11/2024 5:09:54 AM PDT by randita (I will support Ron DeSantis in the primary.)
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To: odawg

I’ve asked several, that same question.

I’ve yet to receive a reply.


90 posted on 04/11/2024 5:34:00 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Agreed. If the Fed has the power to ban abortions nationwide it also has the power to legalize all abortions nationwide. The constitution does not give it jurisdiction to do either.


91 posted on 04/11/2024 5:34:13 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Reno89519

Ummmm - Trump is right - the 10th Amendment is there for a reason - to reduce the power of the Feds over the States...anyone who thinks this article carries weight doesn’t believe in the Constitution.


92 posted on 04/11/2024 5:43:41 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: Jonty30

Does this mean pediphila can be returned to the states? I didn’t see that in the constitution. If not, why not exactly.


93 posted on 04/11/2024 5:46:18 AM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with.)
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To: randita
Listen to Ben Shapiro's podcast today. He outlines the proper position in a way I fully agree with.

Go to DailyWire.com


I went to Dailywire.com ... and, had to first do a search for Ben Shapiro (not a big fan of Ben's, so, I am not a member/have never visited that site, before) ... and, found this article. Not sure if it correlates with what he suggests, in his ‘podcast” ... would've been nice, for you to have done this legwork, and, give a synopsis to whatever it is you are referencing as “the proper position in a way I fully agree with”.

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Trump Preempts Democrats’ Attack On Him Regarding Abortion

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Democrats are going to try to shift the entire election so it becomes about abortion.

Donald Trump made a very savvy political move in dissociating himself from the issue entirely; he said that the federal government should not be involved in the abortion issue.

Though I am strenuously against abortion, the reality is that the most the president of the United States can do unilaterally without congressional approval is implement items like the Mexico City policy, which is funding for abortion overseas, or target spending at Planned Parenthood domestically.

The reality is that there used to be a fairly wide consensus that the federal government should not involve itself in abortion by funding abortion. Joe Biden is the one who broke that pact by saying that you and I should fund abortions across the country. He's the one who said the Hyde Amendment should go.

So Trump made a politically moderate move by saying let the states take care of it.

Then, on Tuesday, an Arizona state Supreme Court decision came down that reinstated a 160-year-old abortion ban in the state of Arizona unless it was necessary to save a woman's life.

By the way, this gives the lie to the frequently used Democratic narrative that there were no abortion laws and no one cared about it until Roe v. Wade. There were abortion laws on virtually every state book dating back centuries in this country.

WATCH: The Ben Shapiro Show

What Democrats want is for pro-lifers to move really fast and really hard in a wide variety of battleground states, hoping they will then get the Michigan-Kansas response.

As you may recall, Kansas put a measure on the ballot calling essentially for the capacity to change the state constitution to allow for abortion legislation, and opponents said, “They're going to ban all abortions in the state.” Instead, Kansas ended up enshrining abortion in the state constitution. The same thing happened in Michigan.

This is an argument I've had with many of my pro-life colleagues. We all have the same exact position when it comes to life, that life should be protected from the point of conception. The question is: How do you reach that in a durable manner such that the law does not end up being reversed and allowing millions of abortions over the course of time?

That is a pragmatic question, and not every state is going to approach it the same way; Mississippi, Alabama, and deep red states can pass very strict abortion bans and all will be fine because the vast majority of the population supports such bans.

But in Arizona, a very split state right now, it becomes far more difficult.

The reason the Democrats are elevating this — not just on the state level, but on the national level — is because they are hoping to be able to pin the full pro-life position on Trump federally, even though this is happening in the state of Arizona.

There was a report that Arizona Republican legislators thought the court's decision would flip the legislature to the Democrats and affect the presidential election.

Trump preempted the Arizona Supreme Court decision by taking it off the federal table.

That leaves Democrats with a conundrum.

The conundrum is that Trump is more moderate than they are on this issue — and they know electorally, that could hurt them.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-preempts-democrats-attack-on-him-regarding-abortion

(You're welcome.)

94 posted on 04/11/2024 5:47:11 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: Jane Long

“I’ve asked several, that same question.

I’ve yet to receive a reply.”

And you never will since the statement masquerades as a good faith, sincere sentiment but is only intended to smear Trump.


95 posted on 04/11/2024 5:49:12 AM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg

And you never will since the statement masquerades as a good faith, sincere sentiment but is only intended to smear Trump.


👍🏼

Certainly isn’t meant to help Trump, or, win in 2024.

If they had the precise answer, they would post it. Including this gal, who writes numerous OpEds and makes numerous tv appearances.


96 posted on 04/11/2024 6:00:27 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: Jonty30

To bad many are unable to open their eyes to that fact.

It’s been settled by the SCOTUS let it go.


97 posted on 04/11/2024 7:43:38 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: stanne

“That’s why pro life people lose. Because they are stupid, naive, linear thinking, ignorant ingrates who are way off as usual.”

-From the book “How to Make Friends and Influence People”, by Stanne

lolol


98 posted on 04/11/2024 10:08:54 AM PDT by Nazu
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To: Nazu

“ From the book “How to Make Friends and Influence People”, by Stanne

lolol”

I’m not trying to win friends and influence people. I’ll never be good at that.

Why did it take 53 years to get to one decisive move to get rid of the unconstitutional roe v wade.


99 posted on 04/11/2024 10:16:39 AM PDT by stanne
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To: momincombatboots

Undefined and restricted means exactly that. The Constitution was written with a moral people in mind. It was not meant for an immoral people.


100 posted on 04/11/2024 11:31:17 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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