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J.D. Vance: The Math on Ukraine Doesn’t Add Up
NYTs ^ | 4/12/24 | J D Vance

Posted on 04/12/2024 12:13:19 PM PDT by hardspunned

President Biden wants the world to believe that the biggest obstacle facing Ukraine is Republicans and our lack of commitment to the global community. This is wrong.

Ukraine’s challenge is not the G.O.P.; it’s math. Ukraine needs more soldiers than it can field, even with draconian conscription policies. And it needs more matériel than the United States can provide. This reality must inform any future Ukraine policy, from further congressional aid to the diplomatic course set by the president.

The Biden administration has applied increasing pressure on Republicans to pass a supplemental aid package of more than $60 billion to Ukraine. I voted against this package in the Senate and remain opposed to virtually any proposal for the United States to continue funding this war. Mr. Biden has failed to articulate even basic facts about what Ukraine needs and how this aid will change the reality on the ground.

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TOPICS: Ukraine
KEYWORDS: angryneoconsbelow; killkillkillforpeace; mic; ukraine
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To: Williams
What does Vance get out of parroting the pro-Putin line, word for word?

He always was going to be the Senator from Silicon Valley....so what does Peter Thiel get out of it?

Follow the money.

21 posted on 04/12/2024 1:12:52 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

I don’t think you have to follow the money we have an isolationist wing in the republican party which is pushing very hard to prevent us from getting involved in foreign conflicts.

I would agree follow the money in terms of donations.


22 posted on 04/12/2024 1:16:25 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: EEGator

They would not have made it through Covid without Uber Eats


23 posted on 04/12/2024 1:20:06 PM PDT by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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To: PMAS

I know the suburban version of them.


24 posted on 04/12/2024 1:22:57 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: z3n
We are trying to funnel money through an international laundering scheme ...

Yes. Hunter has big legal bills, drug suppliers and sordid women to pay, not to mention back taxes! And 'The Big Guy' of course want his cut!

25 posted on 04/12/2024 1:25:40 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Joe couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the 'C' and the 'A'.)
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To: Williams

Have you got any extra hopium to sell? I hear that it is a helluva drug.


26 posted on 04/12/2024 1:26:32 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: PIF

All the RuZZZZians have are shovels, 1500 kg gliding guided shovels.....


27 posted on 04/12/2024 1:27:28 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Maine Mariner

it was sarcastic - said for the many pro Russian trolls inhabiting FR.


28 posted on 04/12/2024 1:30:56 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Williams

What kind of paradise would America be if we didn’t impoverish ourselves with foreign and the financing the invasion of roughly 40 million illegal aliens to date? We will never know thanks to mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging neocons and communists.


29 posted on 04/12/2024 1:31:05 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: PIF

Is PIFFY upset that Speedy doesn’t post much anymore?


30 posted on 04/12/2024 1:32:12 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Maine Mariner

The USSR’s military went home beat up after Afghanistan. Look at our military now.


31 posted on 04/12/2024 1:44:21 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: struggle

Yes, Putin for starters.


32 posted on 04/12/2024 1:54:08 PM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king (Just a Texas Playboy at heart)
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To: hardspunned

It’s still newsworthy that the government math never adds up?

with the rial getting destroyed overnight-

the sale on rubles is still not only on-

they’re getting even cheaper.

Better to bark at the moon than actually have any conviction.


33 posted on 04/12/2024 1:58:36 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: hardspunned

WE are paying for RETIREES and GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES IN CORRUPT UKRAINE!


34 posted on 04/12/2024 2:10:27 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: hardspunned

If Johnson pushes this through, he absolutely must go.


35 posted on 04/12/2024 2:25:11 PM PDT by Kazan (Megan C. bet me, lost the bet and was humiliated!)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Neocons kept your ass safe for 65 years.


36 posted on 04/12/2024 3:20:01 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

Your betters will not let Trump win the election.
They will see to it “by hook or by crook”.

“Intelligence Agencies ‘Have Six Ways From Sunday Of Getting Back At You’.”
Chuck U is on your side with a Ukie vote.

You will do nothing about a lost,stolen railroded election and still cry about the Ukraine.

Instacart shopping probably pays better than shilling for Bidens foreign policy.


37 posted on 04/12/2024 3:23:38 PM PDT by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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To: eyeamok

“Ukraine just needs more Soldiers, Put forth Legislation COnscripting the Blood Relatives between 17-35 of every last Federal Employee, give them 2 weeks training and send them straight to the Front Lines in Ukraine, let’s see how much they want this war then.”

Send Williams,PIF and meganc as well,those boys can handle it.


38 posted on 04/12/2024 3:28:35 PM PDT by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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To: Williams
"Neocons kept your ass safe for 65 years."

No, American patriots kept us safe through WW 2 but the neocons squandered any potential peace and prosperity by getting us into Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. After 9/11 we should have bonbed every village with more than two raped goats in Afghanistan. Vietnam and Iraq were never our problem. Oh, and neocon a-holes were all about importing millions of Muslims to the point that they are affecting our elections and domestic politics. Neocons are a curse on the Republic and hell is too good a place for them.

39 posted on 04/12/2024 3:38:20 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Williams
Billy, sometime around May of this year the Russians are going to roll west and there won't be a thing America can do about it because our industrial base can not produce enough for the Ukraine to defend itself. In march's alone Russia dropped 3000 glide bombs yet we can only produce about 550'patriot missiles a year.

Yay for having a "service economy."

40 posted on 04/12/2024 3:42:01 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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