To: butlerweave
but everything will be alright if they get more money You do know, they are asking for weapons?
Destroying our enemies military without one US injury or death is a worthwhile goal and an important warning to China. US spent 5% of its military budget(Donating mostly older weapons) to destroy half of Russia’s military capability with the help of Ukraine
10 posted on
04/13/2024 10:07:17 AM PDT by
tlozo
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To: tlozo
We already emptied our reserve.
We don’t have it to give away and producing more takes time.
12 posted on
04/13/2024 11:27:45 AM PDT by
Darksheare
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To: tlozo; Travis McGee; Nextrush; SoConPubbie; adorno; hardspunned; WKUHilltopper; Howie66; ...
Wow, that's some concentrated bullcrap right there, Tlozo!
Let's state each fallacy clearly:
- The Russians aren't "our enemies". A faction of the USA Deep State, the so-called "Foreign Policy Blob" hates Russia because their Jewish ancestors were treated badly there, and wants revenge. That's most of the NeoCons. Others want a chance for a second pillage of Russia like the one that happened in the 1990s - the horribly designed privitaization that made a few people tremendously wealthy.
Most Americans have no special animus for Russia or Russians. This is really an inside-the-beltway elite cause, not an organic American one.
- Destroying Russia "without one US injury" -- is a fantasy. We are way way beyond that. The USA has suffered serious injury and continues to. We've lost a lot of weapons, and not just obsolete ones (155mm howitzers are not an obsolete weapon, and the shells are not obsolete ammunition).
- We've lost prestige in the world.
- We've lost control of financial institutions that we've maintained to our advantage for decades, like SWIFT.
- We've forced de-industrialization of our closest allies in Europe, especially Germany. A weak Germnay isn't a "win" unless you are a psychopathic Neocon.
- We've lost control of Allies. The BRICs has surged during the conflict, in part because the retarded and heavy-handed "sanction packages" of the Biden/Blinken/Yellin trioka of morons has made other nuetral nations recoil in horror at the USA using the dollar as a weapon.
- So, de-dollarization is now a thing. The loss of reserve status for the US dollar can't be swept under the rug. It's a huge loss for the USA, and it has picked up lots of momentum due to this war.
- Speaking of the dollar: it's worth less. Because of inlfation, which is exacerbated by the profilgate spending on Ukraine. We already knew that we were in an ugly deficit situation before we decided to bankroll the Zelenskyy caper. Ever dollar spent on Ukraine is - by defintion - a borrowed deficit dollar we pay interest on.
- Killing peole is inherently a very bad thing. If not always totally immoral, it's certainly something to be avoided if possible. The idea that Ukrainian lives are so cheap that we can feel good about them being spent to win some nebulous geo-political goal is repugnant.
- We haven't made incremental progress on "destroying Russia". Russia is objectively doing quite well.
- An American general has said the current Russian military is about 20% bigger than the one they had at the start of the war in 2022.
- Russia's military manufacturing has ramped up significantly because of the war. They are now manufacturing more weapons than the USA and NATO combined.
- In effect Ukraine has a been a great "training camp" for the Heavyweight contender, Russia. He's put on muscle, lost fat, and boosted his cardio. He's sharped his skills, and he's improved his footwork.
- This idea that Russia has lost 1/2 of it's military equipment is a fantasy worthy of Denys the Menys (of UMCRevMom@aol.com fame). See the previous point: Russia has a lot of manufacturing capability. They have the sort of manufacturing capability we used to have, until our elites sold it all off and shipped manufacturing to China and Mexico.
- Russia Can Build 100 Tanks a Month, Retains Capacity to Replace Losses: Intel
Meanwhile, a lot of our weapons have been shown to be delicate and ineffective. In time learning that is good, but the USA's lack of manufacturing means we can't easily and quickly produce upgraded designs.
Artillery is breaking in Ukraine. It’s becoming a problem for the Pentagon.
So I'm sorry Tlozo, but your lazy analysis (one that's been used for a lot of other useless military adventures) "We kill them over there so we don't have to kill them over here" is nonsense. No one who is paying attention to what is really going on is going to accept that lame propaganda claim any longer, my FRiend. If you want to make a case for the continuation of the wretched slow-motion military and economic disaster in Ukraine you can try, but if you expect anyone to take it (or you) seriously, you are going to have to do a lot better than the warmed over NeoCon crap you've offered up here.
13 posted on
04/13/2024 11:30:08 AM PDT by
Vlad0
To: tlozo
Russia isn’t Americas enemy, or at least wasnt till foreigners like you and other grifters made that change. DC is the enemy of the American people.
21 posted on
04/13/2024 12:41:42 PM PDT by
DesertRhino
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