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Since Falwell's comments were taken out of context and posted several times, I thought it only fair to post his response.

He's a good guy. Planned Parenthood, in my opinion, just got a little nervous today with all the God talk. If they don't like the 700 Club TURN IT OFF.

1 posted on 09/14/2001 6:10:41 PM PDT by Media2Powerful
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If you read the old testament prophets and take their words as the literal word of God you will come to the same conclusion as Falwell and Robertson.
2 posted on 09/14/2001 6:21:03 PM PDT by Free the USA
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All the abortion organizations (Planned Parenthood, NARAL, etc) have been sending out nastygrams about Falwell's remarks today. I've been emailing them back his remarks in context. I even emailed People for the American Way. slime
3 posted on 09/14/2001 6:22:00 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Media2Powerful
Sorry, Falwell and Robertson are just FLAKES. They are full of that new-age "evangelical 'Christian'" gobbledy-goop that sells subscriptions for televangelists, and they can't get out of character.

Their sweeping comments about Islam are nauseating. I have no more or less respect for Islam than I do for Judaism or other sects of Christianity than my own. I believe what I believe, but I do NOT tell others what THEY believe.

This was disgraceful. Falwell and Robertson are simply the other side of the Taliban coin.

4 posted on 09/14/2001 6:26:18 PM PDT by Illbay
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uhhhh......Robertson has stumbled over what China should do about their population. Don't cannonize him yet.
7 posted on 09/14/2001 6:43:56 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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Does Pat still have those African diamond mines?
9 posted on 09/14/2001 6:47:25 PM PDT by Mr.Clark
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To: Media2Powerful
a long theological discussion

Oh yeah. He's a regular Paul Tillich. He's St. Augustine come back to life. He's Aquinas. He's Francis Shaeffer discussing the intricacies of how buggering leads to terrorist attacks on innocent Americans. As John Stossel would say, "Gimme a break."

You will notice, the Reverend Billy Graham has nothing to apologize for today, because he gave an inspiring message of hope for all Americans. He struck a perfect balance of speaking to the universal human family, and to his own flock of Christian believers, and to those who may decide to accept Christ into their life.

After reading Mr. Falwell's remarks today, and watching Reverend Graham's sermon, it is easy to see why the latter is universally renouned, speaks at momentous events like today, while the former is a panelist on Geraldo.

14 posted on 09/14/2001 7:06:34 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Media2Powerful
Never underestimate the capacity of these guys to shoot themselves in the foot -- and also hit those who agree with them about things.

Tinkywinky should have taught Falwell that he was the target of a gay rapid response team that would spread any negative story about him as quickly as possible to as many people as possible. A greater degree of circumspection and restraint would have been preferred -- if not for Falwell's own sake, than for the sake of the causes he supports. This is the equivalent of someone from the left going on TV after the OKC bombing and using it to bash his political opponents. It's poor form either way, and hurts one's own positions, not those of one's opponents. Whether one can do this a year down the road is one thing, but one can't do it three days after a national tragedy, because it looks like exploitation.

One thing the incident suggests, though, is that twenty years on, Falwell and Robertson really aren't interested in politics or in making a difference politically. They want to hold those they already have, not gain new supporters. Different people will have different opinions as to what their motives are, but political change doesn't seem to be on their agenda. Unfortunately it very much is on the gay agenda.

15 posted on 09/14/2001 7:27:49 PM PDT by x
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The Lord laid the following message upon my heart after the tragic events of September 11, 2001 took place. I felt led to pass it along.

God... Why?...

By: Dr. S

God… why?... Given the reality of Tuesday’s events, this question is being asked throughout our country and the world. There is a very good possibility that God temporarily lifted His hand of protection from America and has judged us for our sins. For years we have sown the wind and now we have reaped the whirlwind of judgment.

It was ironic to see Daschel, Dodd, Kennedy, Gephardt, Mrs. Clinton and other political leaders commiserating in Washington in the midst of this tragedy, singing "God Bless America" and asking the people of America to "pray to God"! Many of these same government "leaders" have been and are totally opposed to the Lord Jesus Christ, prayer in school or within the halls of government. Leaders who support and promote sexual immorality, sodomy and the wholesale genocide of the unborn are asking us to pray. But what does God have to say:

24 "Because I called and you refused, I stretched out my hand and no one paid attention;

25 And you neglected all my counsel And did not want my reproof;

26 I will also laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your dread comes,

27 When your dread comes like a storm And your calamity comes like a whirlwind, When distress and anguish come upon you.

28 "Then they will call on me, but I will not answer; They will seek me diligently but they will not find me,

29 Because they hated knowledge And did not choose the fear of the LORD.

30 "They would not accept my counsel, They spurned all my reproof.

31 "So they shall eat of the fruit of their own way And be satiated with their own devices.

32 "For the waywardness of the naive will kill them, And the complacency of fools will destroy them.

33 "But he who listens to me shall live securely And will be at ease from the dread of evil." (Proverbs 1:24 - 33)

We have a biblical mandate to pray for President Bush and those in leadership, we have a responsibility to pray for the nation. It is our Christian duty and privilege. But God's word is clear: "we reap what we sow". America has chosen and supported many ungodly and unrighteous political and religious leaders because they are reflective of what many Americans themselves believe and how many of us morally and spiritually live our lives. We have been willing to overlook their ungodly conduct and policies because "character does not matter, it is the economy stupid." Well, God will NOT be mocked. That said, He holds out this promise:

13 "If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among My people,

14 and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. (2 Chronicles 7:13 - 14)

We as a nation, founded upon faith in Christ Jesus and biblical principles have replaced Him with other "gods" (which are NOT gods). Many have made a concerted effort to reject Him and tear God out of the very fabric of our society and personal lives. We have tended to treat the Lord Jesus like a "dixie cup" which we use and throw away at our convenience. We expect God not to judge us while at the same time asking Him to run to our rescue and protect us from our enemies.

I have an honest question I would like you to answer, whether you agree with me or not. Before the events of September 11th took place, were we as individuals and as a nation living righteous and godly lives? Lives pleasing to God who is Holy, absolutely righteous and totally just? Or had we chosen to forget Christ, spurn His Word and do whatever was "right in our own eyes" ? If the answer is the latter, then no matter how painful it is, the truth is this: We are being judged, as a people for our sin.

It is not my intention to offend but we can not use God and expect Him to be at our beck and call. Nor can we call upon Him to "protect" and "defend us" when it is convenient or politically expedient and spurn Jesus and His Word the rest of the time. There is a simple yet profound principle in His Word and it is this: God is not mocked, you reap what you sow and what you reap is multiplied. This is true for individuals, it is also true for nations.

Another question that is being asked boils down to this:

How could God use a nation or individuals even more evil to judge another nation less evil than itself? ... Because He loves us!

He did this numerous times throughout the Old Testament. Israel (the Northern kingdom) had turned away from following the Lord and He allowed the Assyrians to overcome and conquer them. The Assyrians were brutal beyond comprehension. They ripped open pregnant women and dashed their babies against walls and pavement, they impaled their living victims, skinned them alive and crushed them under huge threshing sledges. This is just a small sample of what they did to Israel. Yet God used them as His instrument of judgment upon them because of their sin. The Southern kingdom of Judah was later conquered by the Babylonians. Another wicked nation, totally given over to idolatry , worshipping their own strength, and immorality. Why did God allow this? Because His people had persisted in wickedness and in rejecting Him.

God is loving, gracious and long suffering, but there comes a time when His patience is at an end. God is not only a God of love, He is also holy and just. He must judge sin, even the sin of nations. History has shown that no nation can spurn God, reject His Word and law and get away with it. Not Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, Israel, or the United States of America.

Fortunately, there is hope, it is not too late. God loves us and holds out this promise to us as individuals and as a nation:

13 "If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among My people,

14 and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land." (2 Chronicles 7:13 - 14)

What happened on September 11, 2001 is an unprecedented tragedy; but we are not without hope. I believe that God can use these events to produce spiritual revival throughout America if we respond in brokenness, humility and repentance. We have been given a wake up call and a window of opportunity. How we respond is up to us.

One other issue must be addressed. Our nation has been mercilessly attacked. Thousands of civilian citizens are dead and whether we like it or not we are at war. Those responsible, along with those who sponsor and support them must be held accountable and punished. The sword of justice must now be applied and applied strongly and swiftly upon those who have, without a cause, made themselves our enemies. Otherwise the events of September 11, 2001 will be repeated on an ever increasing level throughout our land in the days ahead.

17 posted on 09/14/2001 7:46:33 PM PDT by Jmouse007
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Don't cave Falwell. You were right. Like it or not, God is a just God! Anybody ever heard of Soddom and Gomorah? This is a wake-up call.
19 posted on 09/14/2001 8:49:58 PM PDT by mattflogel.com
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Here is what ticks me off about the Falwell's and the Pat Robertson's of the world. Every time american blood is shed, they blame it on us. Anybody remember the Northridge Earthquake in California? Pat Robertson claimed that God created that earthquake because of all the porno companies in the area.

Pat Robertson is saying that God punished babies in Northridge for the sins of people they didn't know. I am frankly sick of that nonsense. I think when God gives divine retribution, he is powerful enough to be a bit more discriminating. Apartment dwellers who looked through the rubble for their husbands and children do not to need to hear Falwell and Robertson tell them that God is punishing the entire region, and Oh well.

It was not God that created this tragedy. God mourns for his lost children. It was false Gods, lack of human decency in the followers of these barbarians such as Bin Laden that created this tragedy.

28 posted on 09/15/2001 9:00:27 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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Falwell is a boob
35 posted on 09/15/2001 11:03:08 AM PDT by asneditor
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He has no reason to apologize. His words riled the right people for the right reasons.
45 posted on 09/15/2001 12:09:25 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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Open mouth, insert foot...LOL
54 posted on 09/15/2001 12:32:05 PM PDT by Godsaveusall
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I heard their comments, and they said straight-out that the ACLU should take their share of blame, along with gays, feminists and pagans. A set of bizarre remarks, but I guess if you live in that particular delusion, this stuff makes sense, along with Tinky Winky coming on to you.

I'd love to buy these freaks two tickets to Afghanistan, where the nasty ACLU hasn't removed God from government.
56 posted on 09/15/2001 12:34:38 PM PDT by Belial
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When Liberals bark their shins back-pedaling, their plaintive cry is:

"I WAS QUOTED OUT OF CONTEXT!"

Now, when a Conservative catches heat, it's:

"I WAS QUOTED OUT OF CONTEXT!"

Which is it, folks? Are the media after the Conservatives, or are they after the Liberals?

Perhaps "saying something dumb that you regret later" is not so much a political thing as it is a brain thing.

For what it's worth.

63 posted on 09/15/2001 1:15:42 PM PDT by ihatemyalarmclock
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Why did NPR report on this? Why am I recieving e-mails from all over condemning Falwell? Even from prolife activists, with the part about the abortionists removed!
75 posted on 09/15/2001 1:49:09 PM PDT by hocndoc
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I think in light of reading Ezekiel Chapter 8, I'm rethinking much about 9-11-01. Thank God we are humbling ourselves and seeking God's face that He may hear from Heaven and heal our land.

Ezekiel 8

Matthew Henry Commentary of Ezekiel 8

I couldn't believe that God was bringing his judgement upon America because of past things that we've allowed to happen, but we really don't know what those in authority began to concoct behind the doors to further bring America's citizens into captivity from serving an awesome God. It's even more unthinkable for many to have lost their lives for those remaining to wake up.

In so many ways I pray that the all seeing, knowing omnipresent God redirected many from being in those buildings on Tuesday.


86 posted on 09/15/2001 2:10:35 PM PDT by swheats
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It was Rev. Billy Graham's daughter who made the provocative statement that "God has lifted his blanket of protection over the U.S." on the 700 Club yesterday. Pat Robertson caught H$%) for it all day, but he never once mentioned Mrs. Graham Lotz (who gave a very powerful and unapologetic sermon).

I don't understand the level of hatred people have for both of these men. I suspect that much of it is inspired by the intense attack from the left, every non-PC quote is well publicized by the liberal media. I'd recommend anyone who is basing their opinion on rumor, watch "Listen America," do some research.

At least the discussion is now out in the open. A Defining Moment

90 posted on 09/15/2001 2:18:32 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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bump
93 posted on 09/15/2001 2:28:57 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: Media2Powerful UnChained
Why slam Faldwell and Robertson?
They may seem like goofballs - but they're OUR goofballs.
Here's the guy we oughta be slammin':


Yassir "Gettin off scott-free" Arafat

116 posted on 09/16/2001 9:36:16 PM PDT by ppaul
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