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TOM CLANCY: First we crippled the CIA. Then we blamed it.
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| 9/18/01
| TOM CLANCY
Posted on 09/18/2001 4:50:17 AM PDT by Liz
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To: biblewonk
The great white hope, recast. Some better, well-supported CIA would have saved us. No.
The CIA, by being the appearent single point of responsibility for national intelligemce has prevented, just by that appearence, other more grounded, more focused, more task responsible organizations from doing their jobs. Being "central" the CIA has NO chance at being responsible for anything. Responsible intelligence gathering must be directly tied to where it is used. That is, the DIA, INS and Customs are the better place for overseas intelligence organizations, as those organizations are then responsible for the outcome. The CIA can only be irresponsible.
It can be nothing but the House of Excuses.
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posted on
09/18/2001 6:38:59 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: Liz
Frank Church is dead but maybe we can bring Carter up on charges of treason.
To: riley1992
"Let me add to that list. Clancy has nailed it. We may all fear the CIA from time to time but they are now only a satirical shell of what they used to be and they used to be effective."
They were wonderfully effective when they were arming and training bin Laden and his boys in Afganistan. At least they were effective enough then to make sure the Afgans had plenty of Stinger missiles. Good old American effectivity!
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-000074773sep17.story
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posted on
09/18/2001 6:50:09 AM PDT
by
KO5A
(I forgot how to link Klink)
To: Liz
BTTT
To: KO5A
Then that effectiveness needs to be regained. Don't you think?
To: Liz
And the media praised Clintoon for gutting our intelligence funding. We have met the enemy, and it is the leftists and the media.
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posted on
09/18/2001 7:05:43 AM PDT
by
1Old Pro
To: Liz
BUT, BUT,
That's the American way!
great quote "It is a lamentably common practice in Washington and elsewhere to shoot people in the back and then complain when they fail to win the race."
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posted on
09/18/2001 7:29:25 AM PDT
by
jern
To: The_Expatriate
Right on man. That book was horrible. But he has written classics, like my character!
49
posted on
09/18/2001 7:44:02 AM PDT
by
Mr.Clark
To: Liz
The anti-CIA rats still live. Even on this thread.
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posted on
09/18/2001 8:04:31 AM PDT
by
aculeus
To: The_Expatriate
Mr. Clancy is a novelist. Correction: Mr. Clancy was a novelist, until he released The Bear and the Dragon, the most hilariously ignorant waste of paper I've ever had the pleasure of chucking in the trash.
While I agree w/ Mr. Clancy's assessment of today's CIA, and enjoy reading his novels, I have to agree w/ your opinion of Bear & Dragon. Definitely not his best work.
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posted on
09/18/2001 8:08:02 AM PDT
by
gieriscm
To: 1Old Pro
And the media praised Clintoon for gutting our intelligence funding.
We have met the enemy, and it is the leftists and the media. Aiding and abetting the conniving criminal Klintoons who did nothing unless it advanced their personal interests.
Perhaps we should examine how the Klintoon might have profited by hamstringing the CIA with x42's
inane politically correct Human Rights Policy Scrub. Who gained by this?
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posted on
09/18/2001 8:15:44 AM PDT
by
Liz
To: MooCollins
BUT, BUT, That's the American way! BUT, you are so right..........
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posted on
09/18/2001 8:16:44 AM PDT
by
Liz
To: KO5A
I am referring to long before Bin Laden.
To: Liz
Perhaps we should examine how the Klintoon might have profited by hamstringing the CIA His crooked pals benefited. Then they contributed to him.
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posted on
09/18/2001 8:51:55 AM PDT
by
1Old Pro
To: justshutupandtakeit
"They were wonderfully effective when they were arming and training bin Laden and his boys in Afganistan. At least they were effective enough then to make sure the Afgans had plenty of Stinger missiles. Good old American effectivity!"Then that effectiveness needs to be regained. Don't you think?"
Now I don't know which end is up, but you state-loving warmongers should have to pay bin Laden licensing percentages every time you reap profits on his name.
Although you might argue against his claim, after all- You created him.
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posted on
09/18/2001 9:08:08 AM PDT
by
KO5A
To: KO5A
Sure we did just like the U.S. Army created Robert E. Lee. Go play in traffic fool.
To: 1Old Pro
Perhaps we should examine how the Klintoon might have profited by hamstringing the CIA His crooked pals benefited. Then they contributed to him.
.....that's one way they worked it .....
How about that Chinese tech deal?
Dem donor head of company gave the crooked Clintons $1 M......and a piece of the action?
All the times Bubba's overseas might also be a connection......
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posted on
09/18/2001 12:01:43 PM PDT
by
Liz
To: justshutupandtakeit
I will be playing in traffic. Will you be playing soldier with bin Laden in Afganistan?
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posted on
09/18/2001 12:36:46 PM PDT
by
KO5A
(I won't)
To: KO5A
That is classified information restricted from you since you have no need to know.
Since the Taliban is a militia I would expect to meet you there. Weren't you the one posting a bunch of misleading drivel about the militia's role in the Amercican Revolution?
After the @ss-kicking you received from the Freepers who know something I am surprised to see you raise your head again.
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