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TOM CLANCY: First we crippled the CIA. Then we blamed it.
WSJ-OPINION JOURNAL ^ | 9/18/01 | TOM CLANCY

Posted on 09/18/2001 4:50:17 AM PDT by Liz

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To: biblewonk
The great white hope, recast. Some better, well-supported CIA would have saved us. No.

The CIA, by being the appearent single point of responsibility for national intelligemce has prevented, just by that appearence, other more grounded, more focused, more task responsible organizations from doing their jobs. Being "central" the CIA has NO chance at being responsible for anything. Responsible intelligence gathering must be directly tied to where it is used. That is, the DIA, INS and Customs are the better place for overseas intelligence organizations, as those organizations are then responsible for the outcome. The CIA can only be irresponsible.

It can be nothing but the House of Excuses.

41 posted on 09/18/2001 6:38:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Liz
Frank Church is dead but maybe we can bring Carter up on charges of treason.
42 posted on 09/18/2001 6:47:06 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: riley1992
"Let me add to that list. Clancy has nailed it. We may all fear the CIA from time to time but they are now only a satirical shell of what they used to be and they used to be effective."

They were wonderfully effective when they were arming and training bin Laden and his boys in Afganistan. At least they were effective enough then to make sure the Afgans had plenty of Stinger missiles. Good old American effectivity!

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-000074773sep17.story

43 posted on 09/18/2001 6:50:09 AM PDT by KO5A (I forgot how to link Klink)
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To: Liz
BTTT
44 posted on 09/18/2001 6:58:29 AM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood
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To: KO5A
Then that effectiveness needs to be regained. Don't you think?
45 posted on 09/18/2001 7:02:12 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Liz
And the media praised Clintoon for gutting our intelligence funding. We have met the enemy, and it is the leftists and the media.
46 posted on 09/18/2001 7:05:43 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Liz
BUT, BUT,
That's the American way!
47 posted on 09/18/2001 7:09:22 AM PDT by MooCollins
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great quote "It is a lamentably common practice in Washington and elsewhere to shoot people in the back and then complain when they fail to win the race."
48 posted on 09/18/2001 7:29:25 AM PDT by jern
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To: The_Expatriate
Right on man. That book was horrible. But he has written classics, like my character!
49 posted on 09/18/2001 7:44:02 AM PDT by Mr.Clark
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To: Liz
The anti-CIA rats still live. Even on this thread.
50 posted on 09/18/2001 8:04:31 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: The_Expatriate
Mr. Clancy is a novelist.

Correction: Mr. Clancy was a novelist, until he released The Bear and the Dragon, the most hilariously ignorant waste of paper I've ever had the pleasure of chucking in the trash.

While I agree w/ Mr. Clancy's assessment of today's CIA, and enjoy reading his novels, I have to agree w/ your opinion of Bear & Dragon. Definitely not his best work.

51 posted on 09/18/2001 8:08:02 AM PDT by gieriscm
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To: 1Old Pro
And the media praised Clintoon for gutting our intelligence funding.
We have met the enemy, and it is the leftists and the media.

Aiding and abetting the conniving criminal Klintoons who did nothing unless it advanced their personal interests.
Perhaps we should examine how the Klintoon might have profited by hamstringing the CIA with x42's
inane politically correct Human Rights Policy Scrub. Who gained by this?

52 posted on 09/18/2001 8:15:44 AM PDT by Liz
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To: MooCollins
BUT, BUT, That's the American way!

BUT, you are so right..........

53 posted on 09/18/2001 8:16:44 AM PDT by Liz
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To: KO5A
I am referring to long before Bin Laden.
54 posted on 09/18/2001 8:25:43 AM PDT by riley1992
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To: Liz
Perhaps we should examine how the Klintoon might have profited by hamstringing the CIA

His crooked pals benefited. Then they contributed to him.

55 posted on 09/18/2001 8:51:55 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"They were wonderfully effective when they were arming and training bin Laden and his boys in Afganistan. At least they were effective enough then to make sure the Afgans had plenty of Stinger missiles. Good old American effectivity!

"Then that effectiveness needs to be regained. Don't you think?"

Now I don't know which end is up, but you state-loving warmongers should have to pay bin Laden licensing percentages every time you reap profits on his name.

Although you might argue against his claim, after all- You created him.

56 posted on 09/18/2001 9:08:08 AM PDT by KO5A
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To: KO5A
Sure we did just like the U.S. Army created Robert E. Lee. Go play in traffic fool.
57 posted on 09/18/2001 9:57:54 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: 1Old Pro
Perhaps we should examine how the Klintoon might have profited by hamstringing the CIA

His crooked pals benefited. Then they contributed to him.

.....that's one way they worked it .....
How about that Chinese tech deal?
Dem donor head of company gave the crooked Clintons $1 M......and a piece of the action?

All the times Bubba's overseas might also be a connection......

58 posted on 09/18/2001 12:01:43 PM PDT by Liz
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I will be playing in traffic. Will you be playing soldier with bin Laden in Afganistan?
59 posted on 09/18/2001 12:36:46 PM PDT by KO5A (I won't)
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To: KO5A
That is classified information restricted from you since you have no need to know.

Since the Taliban is a militia I would expect to meet you there. Weren't you the one posting a bunch of misleading drivel about the militia's role in the Amercican Revolution?

After the @ss-kicking you received from the Freepers who know something I am surprised to see you raise your head again.

60 posted on 09/18/2001 1:02:22 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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