Posted on 09/19/2001 10:47:16 AM PDT by XBob
interesting, you admit you aren't any smarter than those in our dumbest profession, the major media.
I see. What interesting logic. By the same reasoning, since you quote the koran, may I then assume that you are the same as an arab terrorist?
Out of respect for other peaceful folks even if they hold ignorant and illogical beliefs. It is traditional practice in the US.
dumber than our dumbest profession, read your own posts.
Apparently, you can't argue yourself out of a paper bag, so I will have to help you. There is zero logical connection to suggest in any manner that I am arguing for the benefits of an Islamic occupancy of Georgia, any more than I am arguing for the benefits of an American occupancy of Afganistan, and the best way to avoid any chance of the one, is to avoid the other, just as the best way to avoid islamic bombs in NY, would have been avoiding american bombs in Bagdad.
History suggests that one of the best ways to assure an occupancy of your country by foreign troops, is to occupy their country, but fail to kill them all.
"Allah is the God of the Jews and Christians."
OK, so now I understand the source of your confusion. The Koran specifically denies the deity of Christ, or that He is God incarnate.
Here Muhammad calls Christians liars and calls for "Allah" to destroy them for worshipping Christ!
[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
Here Muhammad writes that Christ wasn't even crucified!
[4.157] And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
Here Muhammad tells Christians not to lie about the Christ, and calls Christ but just one of Allah's prophets, and even claims that Allah had no son nor needed one!
[4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
Here Muhammad repeats his claim that Christ "is but an apostle" of Allah, then chastises Christians, claiming they have turned away by worshipping Christ!
[5.75] The Messiah, son of Marium is but an apostle; apostles before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman; they both used to eat food. See how We make the communications clear to them, then behold, how they are turned away.
Now, what does the Apostle John tell us of such "spirits?"
I John 4:1-3
"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."
I John 4:14-15
"And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God."
II John 7,
"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist."
Now you may not agree with any of this, but then that's the difference between Christianity and Islam: you are free to believe anything you wish in a Christian culture. You are not free to do so in a Muslim one.
Now, run along and get this thread pulled because you don't like the truth.
Because Islam denies this, Allah is clearly not the same God as that of the Christians and Jews.
As I said before, 'walk to work' !!!!!
You can't have your gas and be a coward too.
"The Koran attributes Allah as the God Of Abraham."
You could stand in your garage and call yourself a car. Would that make it so?
The Bible specifically denies both of the assertions you are making. Again, you may not believe that, but you do so contrary to the evidence presented to you on this thread.
What's your agenda here, Appy?
Last night we had unexpected company, and I was tempted to multiply the cookies we had baked for my son's bake sale, so we could feed the multitude, but then I remembered my new credo.
Later, my wife pointed out we were running out of wine, but I went to the store instead of just turning some water in to wine.
It was a little tougher when I was giving my son his bath, because my inclination was to walk on the water to get the shampoo that was on the other side of the tub, but I was able to control myself and just reach across.
It's hard, but, like Mohammed, I have prevailed so far. Maybe I should start my own religion too.
You can't have your gas and be a coward too.
Yea, that sure makes us great nobel heros: trading 1/2 million+ dead Iraqi children for full tanks of gas. You must be so proud of how uncowardly that makes you.
42 - you continue to repeatedly prove my point.
You have no sane point that you are able to articulate sufficiently to defend. Apparently, your latest theory is that the Koran is responsible for the terrorism we are experiencing. Leaving the solution being, I guess, the extermination or subjugation of all of Islam.
I can hardly wait to see the result of attempting to implement that program on the women and children of Islam, oh non-cowardly one.
"What is your agenda behind these lies? You continously ignore the obvious in favor of self-serving falsehoods."
LOL! Whatever. Your severe aversion to the truth clearly presented to you (not only here but on other threads) sufficiently illustrates who among us is posting "self-serving falsehoods."
Have a nice day.
That is a little bit hard to do, unless you are talking about prophesy. Mohammed was not born until 600 years after Jesus was born.
Being riddled with orders of genocide, slavery, subjection of women, and a host of general bizarreness, the Bible isn’t so pretty itself, sometimes.
When are you walking to work????? Please get off your mouth and walk, like you are pleading. As it was such a terrible thing, you should not be using any gas from the mid-east, period.
And if someone steals something of yours.... just forgive them, and offer them some more. You are still an idiot and keep on proving it. You never even learned the kindergarten lessons - you can give the class bully your lunch money, but it doesn't stop the muggings. Only when you bloddy his nose will he stop. GO BACK TO KINDERGARTEN AND LEARN SOMETHING!!!!!!
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