Posted on 09/19/2001 10:47:16 AM PDT by XBob
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.[47.1] (As for) those who disbelieve and turn away from Allah's way, He shall render their works ineffective.
[47.2] And (as for) those who believe and do good, and believe in what has been revealed to Muhammad, and it is the very truth from their Lord, He will remove their evil from them and improve their condition.
[47.3] That is because those who disbelieve follow falsehood, and have given them their dowries, taking (them) in marriage, not fornicating nor taking them for paramours in secret; and whoever denies faith, his work indeed is of no account, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
[47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates. That (shall be so); and if Allah had pleased He would certainly have exacted what is due from them, but that He may try some of you by means of others; and (as for) those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish.
[47.5] He will guide them and improve their condition.
[47.6] And cause them to enter the garden which He has made known to them.
[47.7] O you who believe ! if you help (the cause of) Allah, He will help you and make firm your feet.
[47.8] And (as for) those who disbelieve, for them is destruction and He has made their deeds ineffective.
[47.9] That is because they hated what Allah revealed, so He rendered their deeds null.
[47.10] Have they not then journeyed in the land and seen how was the end of those before them: Allah brought down destruction upon them, and the unbelievers shall have the like of it.
[47.11] That is because Allah is the Protector of those who believe, and because the unbelievers shall have no protector for them.
[47.12] Surely Allah will make those who believe and do good enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; and those who disbelieve enjoy themselves and eat as the beasts eat, and the fire is their abode.
[47.13] And how many a town which was far more powerful than the town of yours which has driven you out: We destroyed them so there was no helper for them.
[47.14] What! is he who has a clear argument from his Lord like him to whom the evil of his work is made fairseeming: and they follow their low desires.
[47.15] A parable of the garden which those guarding (against evil) are promised: Therein are rivers of water that does not alter, and rivers of milk the taste whereof does not change, and rivers of drink delicious to those who drink, and rivers of honey clarified and for them therein are all fruits and protection from their Lord. (Are these) like those who abide in the fire and who are made to drink boiling water so it rends their bowels asunder.
[47.16] And there are those of them who seek to listen to you, until when they go forth from you, they say to those who have been given the knowledge: What was it that he said just now? These are they upon whose hearts Allah has set a seal and they follow their low desires.
[47.17] And (as for) those who follow the right direction, He increases them in guidance and gives them their guarding (against evil).
[47.18] Do they then wait for aught but the hour that it should come to them all of a sudden? Now indeed the tokens of it have (already) come, but how shall they have their reminder when it comes on them?
[47.19] So know that there is no god but Allah, and, ask protection for your fault and for the believing men and the believing women; and Allah knows the place of your returning and the place of your abiding.
[47.20] And those who believe say: Why has not a chapter been revealed? But when a decisive chapter is revealed, and fighting is mentioned therein you see those in whose hearts is a disease look to you with the look of one fainting because of death. Woe to them then!
[47.21] Obedience and a gentle word (was proper); but when the affair becomes settled, then if they remain true to Allah it would certainly be better for them.
[47.22] But if you held command, you were sure to make mischief in the land and cut off the ties of kinship!
[47.23] Those it is whom Allah has cursed so He has made them deaf and blinded their eyes.
[47.24] Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Nay, on the hearts there are locks.
[47.25] Surely (as for) those who return on their backs after that guidance has become manifest to them, the Shaitan has made it a light matter to them; and He gives them respite.
[47.26] That is because they say to those who hate what Allah has revealed: We will obey you in some of the affairs; and Allah knows their secrets.
[47.27] But how will it be when the angels cause them to die smiting their backs.
[47.28] That is because they follow what is displeasing to Allah and are averse to His pleasure, therefore He has made null their deeds.
[47.29] Or do those in whose hearts is a disease think that Allah will not bring forth their spite?
[47.30] And if We please We would have made you know them so that you would certainly have recognized them by their marks and most certainly you can recognize them by the intent of (their) speech; and Allah knows your deeds.
[47.31] And most certainly We will try you until We have known those among you who exert themselves hard, and the patient, and made your case manifest.
[47.32] Surely those who disbelieve and turn away from Allah's way and oppose the Apostle after that guidance has become clear to them cannot harm Allah in any way, and He will make null their deeds.
[47.33] O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Apostle, and do not make your deeds of no effect.
[47.34] Surely those who disbelieve and turn away from Allah's way, then they die while they are unbelievers, Allah will by no means forgive them.
[47.35] And be not slack so as to cry for peace and you have the upper hand, and Allah is with you, and He will not bring your deeds to naught.
[47.36] The life of this world is only idle sport and play, and if you believe and guard (against evil) He will give you your rewards, and will not ask of you your possessions.
[47.37] If He should ask you for it and urge you, you will be niggardly, and He will bring forth your malice.
[47.38] Behold! you are those who are called upon to spend in Allah's way, but among you are those who are niggardly, and whoever is niggardly is niggardly against his own soul; and Allah is Self-sufficient and you have need (of Him), and if you turn back He will bring in your place another people, then they will not be like you.
interesting, you admit you aren't any smarter than those in our dumbest profession, the major media.
I see. What interesting logic. By the same reasoning, since you quote the koran, may I then assume that you are the same as an arab terrorist?
Out of respect for other peaceful folks even if they hold ignorant and illogical beliefs. It is traditional practice in the US.
dumber than our dumbest profession, read your own posts.
Apparently, you can't argue yourself out of a paper bag, so I will have to help you. There is zero logical connection to suggest in any manner that I am arguing for the benefits of an Islamic occupancy of Georgia, any more than I am arguing for the benefits of an American occupancy of Afganistan, and the best way to avoid any chance of the one, is to avoid the other, just as the best way to avoid islamic bombs in NY, would have been avoiding american bombs in Bagdad.
History suggests that one of the best ways to assure an occupancy of your country by foreign troops, is to occupy their country, but fail to kill them all.
"Allah is the God of the Jews and Christians."
OK, so now I understand the source of your confusion. The Koran specifically denies the deity of Christ, or that He is God incarnate.
Here Muhammad calls Christians liars and calls for "Allah" to destroy them for worshipping Christ!
[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
Here Muhammad writes that Christ wasn't even crucified!
[4.157] And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
Here Muhammad tells Christians not to lie about the Christ, and calls Christ but just one of Allah's prophets, and even claims that Allah had no son nor needed one!
[4.171] O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
Here Muhammad repeats his claim that Christ "is but an apostle" of Allah, then chastises Christians, claiming they have turned away by worshipping Christ!
[5.75] The Messiah, son of Marium is but an apostle; apostles before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman; they both used to eat food. See how We make the communications clear to them, then behold, how they are turned away.
Now, what does the Apostle John tell us of such "spirits?"
I John 4:1-3
"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."
I John 4:14-15
"And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God."
II John 7,
"Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist."
Now you may not agree with any of this, but then that's the difference between Christianity and Islam: you are free to believe anything you wish in a Christian culture. You are not free to do so in a Muslim one.
Now, run along and get this thread pulled because you don't like the truth.
Because Islam denies this, Allah is clearly not the same God as that of the Christians and Jews.
As I said before, 'walk to work' !!!!!
You can't have your gas and be a coward too.
"The Koran attributes Allah as the God Of Abraham."
You could stand in your garage and call yourself a car. Would that make it so?
The Bible specifically denies both of the assertions you are making. Again, you may not believe that, but you do so contrary to the evidence presented to you on this thread.
What's your agenda here, Appy?
Last night we had unexpected company, and I was tempted to multiply the cookies we had baked for my son's bake sale, so we could feed the multitude, but then I remembered my new credo.
Later, my wife pointed out we were running out of wine, but I went to the store instead of just turning some water in to wine.
It was a little tougher when I was giving my son his bath, because my inclination was to walk on the water to get the shampoo that was on the other side of the tub, but I was able to control myself and just reach across.
It's hard, but, like Mohammed, I have prevailed so far. Maybe I should start my own religion too.
You can't have your gas and be a coward too.
Yea, that sure makes us great nobel heros: trading 1/2 million+ dead Iraqi children for full tanks of gas. You must be so proud of how uncowardly that makes you.
42 - you continue to repeatedly prove my point.
You have no sane point that you are able to articulate sufficiently to defend. Apparently, your latest theory is that the Koran is responsible for the terrorism we are experiencing. Leaving the solution being, I guess, the extermination or subjugation of all of Islam.
I can hardly wait to see the result of attempting to implement that program on the women and children of Islam, oh non-cowardly one.
"What is your agenda behind these lies? You continously ignore the obvious in favor of self-serving falsehoods."
LOL! Whatever. Your severe aversion to the truth clearly presented to you (not only here but on other threads) sufficiently illustrates who among us is posting "self-serving falsehoods."
Have a nice day.
That is a little bit hard to do, unless you are talking about prophesy. Mohammed was not born until 600 years after Jesus was born.
Being riddled with orders of genocide, slavery, subjection of women, and a host of general bizarreness, the Bible isn’t so pretty itself, sometimes.
When are you walking to work????? Please get off your mouth and walk, like you are pleading. As it was such a terrible thing, you should not be using any gas from the mid-east, period.
And if someone steals something of yours.... just forgive them, and offer them some more. You are still an idiot and keep on proving it. You never even learned the kindergarten lessons - you can give the class bully your lunch money, but it doesn't stop the muggings. Only when you bloddy his nose will he stop. GO BACK TO KINDERGARTEN AND LEARN SOMETHING!!!!!!
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