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Hackers face life imprisonment under 'Anti-Terrorism' Act
Security Focus ^ | Sep 23 2001 | Kevin Poulsen

Posted on 09/24/2001 3:07:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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1 posted on 09/24/2001 3:07:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To date no terrorists are known to have violated the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. But several recent hacker cases would have qualified as "Federal terrorism offenses" under the Justice Department proposal...

Go after the guys who didn't do it. Makes sense to me.

2 posted on 09/24/2001 3:10:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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and assaults designed to change the purpose of government."

What does this mean?

3 posted on 09/24/2001 3:17:35 PM PDT by Dan De Quille
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What does this mean?

Whatever they want it to mean.

4 posted on 09/24/2001 3:20:45 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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Go after the guys who didn't do it. Makes sense to me.

That's right. Wait 'till a fire starts.. then we'll discuss geting a fire department. Eveyone knows a fire department is just oppresive taxation until the fire starts.

5 posted on 09/24/2001 3:23:17 PM PDT by Common Tator
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Life in prison for hackers?

Bummer.

6 posted on 09/24/2001 3:26:25 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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See the damage done this past week by an "innocent virus" that did NOTHING but send emails ......

Happened to have a "Made in the (free) People's Republic of China" label on it.

Nah. We've got nothing to worry about from terrorist/foreign-inspired hackers BEFORE the fire kills people - we've just be warned by the fire bell that is HAS been lit.

7 posted on 09/24/2001 3:29:33 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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That's right. Wait 'till a fire starts.. then we'll discuss geting a fire department. Eveyone knows a fire department is just oppresive taxation until the fire starts.

You are absolutely correct. We can never be to safe. Let's get rid of all the guns too. It's too late when somebody gets shot.

8 posted on 09/24/2001 3:31:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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--check this out. "Freeping" a governmental officials email address could be construed as a DOS attack. RICO. organized on a website, and etc.

Don't laff, 1500 farmers are out of water under the BUSH administration, for a suckerfish. would anyone have though that possible even 10 years ago?

I keep thinking, wtc/pentagon was just too useful a happening to pass up exploiting by the goons. We'll see more loss of freedoms over this incident than over the sum total of everything else the past 30 years, and just wait until the next attack.

9 posted on 09/24/2001 3:34:24 PM PDT by zog
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As far as I'm concerned, hackers, and creators of computer viruses, ought to be hung. Even that's too lenient.
10 posted on 09/24/2001 3:35:08 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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You're right. Drawn and quartered first.
11 posted on 09/24/2001 3:38:22 PM PDT by Poohbah
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And this ba$tard won't go after the Clintons.
12 posted on 09/24/2001 3:40:27 PM PDT by gunshy
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As a "Federal terrorism offense," the five year statute of limitations for hacking would be abolished retroactively -- allowing computer crimes committed decades ago to be prosecuted today...

Isn't there a little thing called the Constitution of the United States of America that contains a clause prohibiting the creation of ipso facto laws. It has always been my understanding that changing the wording of a law in any way basically creates a new law, and if hopping on one leg was legal yesterday and illegal today, I couldn't be prosecuted on evidence that I hopped on one leg in the past, even if the statute of limitations for hopping on one leg were unlimited. A statute of limitations, cannot go back to before the day a law was enacted. A$#croft is really outdoing himself for striking while the iron is hot to usurp our civil liberties. It almost makes me miss Janet Reno...
What's next, will jaywalking be classified as "deliberate obstruction of mass transit" and punishable by life in prision?

13 posted on 09/24/2001 3:42:49 PM PDT by BigOrra
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I thought I saw Janet Ashcroft rubbing "his" hands together in glee this weekend.
14 posted on 09/24/2001 3:43:04 PM PDT by Hank Rearden
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Yeah, same goes for the punks who keeping puttin' dents in my mailbox with a baseball bat!
15 posted on 09/24/2001 3:45:31 PM PDT by SubSailor
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I don't how a conservative could oppose the most severe punishment for hackers that spread viruses. We should be increasing the punishment for other crimes and be thankful for proper punishment for losers that create viruses.
16 posted on 09/24/2001 3:46:02 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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As far as I'm concerned, hackers, and creators of computer viruses, ought to be hung. Even that's too lenient.

Depends on the definition of "hacking." There was some poor schmuck, a web designer by trade, who was checking the work of one of his coworkers by opening a newspaper's web site using FrontPage. He discovered that that he had full access to their site from FrontPage because they had neglected to password protect it. He called the newspaper editor to let him know.

Then next day he got a visit from the FBI. Eighteen months later a federal prosecutor offered him a plea bargain.

I posted the original article on Free Republic a few months ago. When I finally locate it I will post a link.

Bottom line is, people who know nothing about computers and programming consider EVERYTHING to be hacking.

17 posted on 09/24/2001 3:48:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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Hang the hackers! Lethally inject the virus makers!
18 posted on 09/24/2001 3:48:32 PM PDT by SubSailor
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"That's right. Wait 'till a fire starts.. then we'll discuss geting a fire department. Eveyone knows a fire department is just oppresive taxation until the fire starts.

While you DO have a point, I'm wondering how long after this gets passed until Bill Gates and others try to get copyright infringement violators considered for it.

19 posted on 09/24/2001 3:53:23 PM PDT by Bill Rice
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You all are working under the impression that we even have rights.

We don't.

We only have the illusion of freedom (not freedom itself). Which some of you are about to find out the hard way.

Paul C. Jesup

20 posted on 09/24/2001 3:56:19 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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