Skip to comments.Post Here Evidence that Some in Muslim Community Had Prior Knowledge of 9-11 Attack
Posted on 10/17/2001 10:48:30 AM PDT by honway
Police: Student spoke of attacks before Sept. 11...
Source: The Journal News
Published: 10-11-01 Author: JEFFREY SCOTT SHAPIRO
Posted on 10/11/01 10:37 AM Pacific by Demian
BROOKLYN Authorities are tracking numerous leads that some people, including members of the Arab-American community, heard rumors of the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington in the days leading up to the hijackings, law enforcement sources say. "There have been leads where someone has alleged to have heard someone else boasting about how the attack was going to happen before it happened," said Jim Margolin, a spokesman for the FBI in Manhattan.
In Brooklyn, a high school freshman who recently immigrated from Pakistan was investigated by federal agents after his teacher reported that he had predicted the Trade Center's collapse a week before the towers were attacked.
The student pointed out a third-story window of New Utrecht High School toward the Trade Center and said, "Do you see those two buildings? They won't be standing there next week," according to three police sources and a city official familiar with the investigation. They said the comment came in the midst of a heated political discussion the student was having with his teacher in an English class for Arab-American students.
New York City Board of Education spokeswoman Catie Marshall confirmed that school officials reported the matter to police within minutes of the Sept. 11 attack.
The boy's teacher, Antoinette DeLorenzo, declined to comment, but students said that FBI agents and NYPD detectives descended on the school on Sept. 13 to interrogate the student and others in his class.
Brooke Lillman, a 15-year-old sophomore, said that when the news of the attack began circulating in the school, DeLorenzo locked her classroom door, fearing her students could be attacked by their peers.
A veteran city police detective familiar with the case said investigators have been learning that many people in New York's Arab-American community had heard rumors about the Sept. 11 attacks before they occurred.
The officer said the story "had been out on the street," and the number of leads turning up was so "overwhelming" that it was difficult to tell who had heard about the attacks from second-hand sources and who had heard it from someone who may have been a participant.
For example, since Sept. 11, various leads have been investigated regarding Middle Eastern employees who may not have shown up for work at the World Trade Center that morning.
One detective conducting such investigations in Brooklyn said they had become "a serious and major priority."
According to a recent report on the Sept. 11 attacks issued by the British government, intelligence sources have found that Osama bin Laden himself made comments before Sept. 11 that "he was preparing a major attack on America," and warned many of his associates to return to Afghanistan by Sept. 10. The report further states that known associates of bin Laden were naming Sept. 11 as a date of action.
Federal agents who visited the New Utrecht school questioned the student and his older brother, who also attends there, the sources said. Afterward, the agents tried to question their father, who chastised them for harassing his children, they said.
Police sources said that, after the interviews, the boy's father left for Pakistan. After his departure, investigators conducted a second interview with the boy and his mother, who told them that her son was having psychological problems.
The boy and his brother have returned to school, but police said the FBI discussed keeping them under surveillance.
School officials closed the school on Sept. 12, but FBI agents and city police combed the building the following day. They searched the backpacks and lockers of various students with Middle Eastern backgrounds, and spent several hours interviewing them in a locked room.
"There were cops all over the building," said Julian Sulaj, a 17-year old senior at the school. "It was security to the max."
The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in Washington, D.C., said Brooklyn has the largest population of Arab-Americans in New York City.
According to a federal indictment against bin Laden, FBI agents have linked the former Alkifah Refugee Center on Brooklyn's Atlantic Avenue to the Saudi fugitive-exile's terrorist network, al-Qaida.
| Sept. 19, 2001, 9:26PM
Boy in Dallas suburb predicts start of WW III day before attacks
By R.G. RATCLIFFE Copyright 2001 Houston Chronicle
Boy in Dallas suburb predicts start of WW III day before attacks
The day before terrorists attacked New York and Washington, a fifth-grader in a Dallas suburb told his teacher World War III would begin the next day, school officials have told the FBI.
The boy was absent from school the day of the attacks, Sept. 11, and the following day, but has been at school since then, said Rhonda Lucich, a director of elementary education for the Garland Independent School District.
Lucich said the boy approached his teacher on the afternoon of Sept. 10 and casually told her:
"Tomorrow, World War III will begin. It will begin in the United States, and the United States will lose."
50 posted on 10/17/01 8:08 AM Pacific by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]
A source or first hand experience to confirm this would be appreciated.
The plane story is true, but it's unclear as to whether it was an actual adavnce warning of the Sept. 11 attacks.
They showed a picture of the calendar page in question. The actual copies of the calendar were found in a Muslim school in Belgium or something like that.
This is not a question of fortune telling.
The question is did the planners of 9-11 warn members of the Muslim community to prevent harm to fellow Muslims. The massive short selling of United and American Airlines indicate many knew before hand. The purpose here is to try to determine how widespread that warning was and why the information was not provided to the proper authorities.
There seems to be considerable evidence that many members of the Muslim community knew in advance of the attack. My wife works in an office building and a Muslim co-worker sits behind her. The Muslim lady rarely misses work and she was there on 9-10 and 9-12, but absent on 9-11. When asked why she missed work she said she had something to do. I wonder how common this is for Muslims working in office buildings
But this is a concept that should be filed away in our minds as one of those "early warning" signs. If you live in an area with a Muslim population large enough that you usually see them in a particular place (the grocery store, for example) you need to take note if they are not there. To stay aware, we may have to learn to watch for what's missing as well as looking for what shouldn't be there...
Where was our 30 Billion dollar intelligence's?
I think this may be a better link for the facts.
I don't believe in fortune tellers.
I do believe many in the Muslim community were warned in advance by fellow Muslims that knew there would be an attack and the adults remained silent. The silence of those that knew in advance now bonds them with those that wish to destroy us.
Notice, said maybe, if, stuff like that. I don't discount anything anymore after watching the clinton administration more or less skate on all sorts of issues including high level treason and arkanicide.
Personally, I believe some factions-some-in government did in fact know about this. Like, faa has reports of 4 planes hijacked, it takes 58 minutes to get fighter jets in the air. other reports going back years of warnings, and ignored lax airport security. Warnings about terrorists in conus ignored. etc. etc.
Makes ya go hm-m-m-m-m
I have no absolute proof of course, but then again, have no absolute proof of any other scandals of the past, from jfk whack on to today, but that one convinced me we have high level mercenary traitors in government, who can get away with assassinating a president, so I put nothing past them or their progeny. Even if this was a 100% pure unadulterated osama bin laden job, I still think it's looks suspicious and some of these bad guy traitor factions will take advantage of the fact, somehow.
My two rolls of reynolds wrap worth.
I was hoping exposure on the Front Page would assist in collecting the information , but the post was removed from the front page for understandable reasons. I respect their judgement. However, if we were able to assemble sufficient information for a reasonable person to conclude that there was a warning that went out widespread to many practicing Muslims across the country, I think that information could be useful in the strategy to win the long war ahead.
Is it possible that some Muslim knew in advance the attack were going to happen? Sure. But I think the search for those people would be helped if people actually had some concrete evidence instead of just posting variations on urban legends and things they heard on talk radio or from a "friend of a friend".
My guess is we will never find out who was short selling.
I think OBL had help from Saddam and other terrorist organizations.
Actor James Woods: 'Forget Political Correctness'
by Scott Hogenson
15 Oct, 2001
(CNSNews.com) - Actor James Woods, who...
Go to http://www.CNSNEWS.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200110\NAT20011015b.html to view the full story.
Forget political correctness," said Woods. "Our lives are at stake, be vigilant."
Isn't this just a coincidence?
Why? There was a Muslim cleric at the National Cathedral as I recall.
There are two possible explanations:
1. All the Muslims that missed work and school did so by coincidence.
2. Some missed work because there was a general warning sent through out the Muslim community that there would be an attack on 9-11.
The news accounts above support the latter. A statistical analysis of the unplanned absences of Muslims working around the World Trade Center would establish if all the absences were coincidence or not. I will never know one way or the other about my wife's co-worker.
Please see the link in reply#5 for OCT-DEC
It seems to me all these transactions are recorded somewhere. Anything that has to be reported to the IRS should have a paper trail.
You are absolutely 100% correct. Without the proper record keeping the entire system would collapse. They know exactly who made the short sell trades, but it has been decided that you and me do not need that information. I predict the Justice Department will not prosecute a single case related to the short selling.