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Bin Laden website a countdown to Sept. 11?
Philadelphia City Paper ^ | 10/19/01 | Howard Altman

Posted on 10/19/2001 7:16:34 AM PDT by truthandlife

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To: truthandlife
Verrry Verrrrry INteresting!

(*not being facetious*)

21 posted on 10/19/2001 8:35:23 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: BabylonXXX
If by "they" you mean Bush, Inc., you've got to be kidding... Do you know how much money the Bush family has tied up with the Binladins?

I find insulting your insinuation that the Bush family would elevate personal finance over the good of the country. You make me sick.
22 posted on 10/19/2001 8:52:04 AM PDT by Capt. Jake
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To: truthandlife
If you'd like to see some of the content from the site, hit this link for a Google search on "site:www.saudi-binladin-group.com petroleum". Visit the "Cached" link for each search hit to see the page Google saved when it visited each link while spidering the site.

I'm sure that more ubiquitous terms could be used to gather more cached content.

23 posted on 10/19/2001 8:58:28 AM PDT by dwollmann
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To: dwollmann
Thanks - Very informative & I'm sure some will say "nothing here, move on, go shopping"

But I found this very interesting, although some will also say "circumstantial".

Binladin International Group Core Business (cached):
Includes Airports & Aviation facilities
Ports & Harbours - Highways & Bridges Tunnels & Dams
Mosques, Buildings, Villas & Housing Compounds - Hospitals
& Healthcare Centres - Schools & Universities - Factories
Industrial & Power Projects
Treatment Plants Collection & Distribution Systems
Mining - Petrochemical - etc...

24 posted on 10/19/2001 9:23:32 AM PDT by Brandonmark
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To: Capt. Jake
I find insulting your insinuation that the Bush family would elevate personal finance over the good of the country. You make me sick.

OMG....

Please tell me you are being sarcastic.

25 posted on 10/19/2001 9:30:44 AM PDT by BabylonXXX
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To: Brandonmark
Thanks! So much for the Saudi group not being in touch with him!
26 posted on 10/19/2001 10:06:34 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: jgrubbs
Im curious as to why they registered a domain for only one year and have now let their web site go offline.
27 posted on 10/19/2001 10:16:00 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: BabylonXXX
You are beneath contempt with your comments about the Bush Family and Bin Laden! Some of you folks love to make slanderous comments and never have information to back them up on the Bush Family. Been putting up with slanderous comments about the Bush Family since I came on here by the anti-Bush crowd, but yours is one of the lowest ones. Just throw out a comment and hope it sticks. Disgusting!
28 posted on 10/19/2001 10:22:32 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: craig_eddy
thy this Link

Here

29 posted on 10/19/2001 10:36:37 AM PDT by smith288
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To: ravingnutter
all domain names are. you pay yearly as a defualt to renew is this is true, these guys need to be taken down asap, could not be a coincidence, unless son is going after family too now.
30 posted on 10/19/2001 10:41:58 AM PDT by veryconernedamerican
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To: PhiKapMom
The Bush's and Bin Ladins go way back.

George W.'s closest friend -- James Bath is the principal investor for the Bin Ladin Group's interests. (Bath and W. flew together in the same guard unit). It was the Bin Ladin's who were the primary investors in W's oil exploration company in Texas. When it went south, the Bin Ladin group bought W's worthless shares for an enormous amount of money -- enough for W to start up Harkin Energy (which obtained contracts in Bahrain).

To be blunt, the Bush's have served as the conduit through which the Bin Ladin's have funneled money. This is old news. It has been conveniently dumped down the memory hole, however.

Turning to how Bush and Bin Ladin benefit, don’t accuse me of making statements without support. The support is out there. However, if anyone posts something anti-Bush which is backed up, the poster disappears. It’s happened to me twice already. Most of the posters who were great researchers have disappeared from FreeRepublic.

So, how does the Bush family AND the Bin Ladin family benefit?

Read:

(From the Baltimore Chronicle -- October 1,2001)

Though described by the Industry Standard as “the world’s largest private equity firm,” with over $12 billion under management, chances are readers haven’t ever heard of The Carlyle Group. Isn’t that a little odd, considering it is run by a veritable who's who of former Republican political leaders. Former Defense Secretary Frank Carlucci is Carlyle’s chairman and managing director (who, by the way, was college roommate of the current Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld). And that partners in this mammoth venture include former U.S. Secretary of State James A. Baker III, George Soros, Fred Malek (George H.W. Bush’s campaign manager, forced to resign when it was revealed he was Nixon’s “Jew counter”), and—presumably—George H.W. Bush?

We say “presumably” because the privately-held Carlyle doesn’t have to reveal information about its partners or investments to the SEC or to anyone else. Our former President is reported to be active in seeking investments for the Carlyle Group from the Asian market, and word is he’s paid between $80,000 to $100,000 per presentation.

All told, Carlyle has about 420 partners all over the globe, from Saudi princes to the former president of the Philippines. Its investments run heavily in the defense sector; they make money from military conflicts and weapons spending. But who in Baltimore knows about it?

A search of the Baltimore Sun’s website reveals no mentions whatsoever of The Carlyle Group, though it’s been around since 1988 and has been involved in numerous buy-outs and buy-ins, sometimes with SEC-regulated companies that have to report these things. Contrast this news blackout with the Washington Post’s 378 mentions, and the New York Times’ 332 hits. Even the Philadelphia Inquirer weighed in with 15 mentions.

Not only have some newspapers and magazines brought The Carlyle Group out of the shadows it prefers, but this enterprise has attracted the attention of The Center for Public Integrity and Judicial Watch, both of which have concerns about the ethical propriety of having high-placed former government officials—trained at taxpayer expense, too—out there reaping over 20% to 40% a year by working their connections. You have to wonder if these former public servants are just simply greedy, or if they’re telling themselves they’re true patriots by doing behind-the-scenes cloak-and-dagger stuff.

This is a big story. We were wondering if, in the wake of current events, we were the only newspaper that was asking that question, “Who benefits?” And then we found that the Wall Street Journal was asking the right questions, too, and we were vastly relieved not to be left hanging out to dry.On Sept. 27, the WSJ published a “Special Report: Aftermath of Terror” with the headline “Bin Laden Family Could Profit From a Jump In Defense Spending Due to Ties to U.S. Bank.” The “bank” is actually The Carlyle Group (and by the way, we peons can’t invest in it, and it sure isn’t taking deposits from the general public). The lead sentence reads: “If the U.S. boosts defense spending in its quest to stop Osama bin Laden’s alleged terrorist activities, there may be one unexpected beneficiary: Mr. bin Laden’s family.” And, though the WSJ curiously did not mention this, another beneficiary may be George H.W. Bush’s family.

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PhiKapMom, do you honestly believe the Bush family lives off the meager presidential salary?

Do you have ANY IDEA how wealthy the Bush dynasty is?

In light of the fact that all the Bush's have, for the most part, only been employed as "public servants", where do you think the wealth came from?

31 posted on 10/19/2001 2:21:01 PM PDT by BabylonXXX
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To: BabylonXXX; Dog Gone; Brandonmark
Which person are you from Judicial Watch? Thanks for giving me the name of The Carlyle Group that triggered some research and my mind to research and found that JW had a press release that came up on FR!

The information on this press release came from European Intelligence Wire 10/02/2001 06:12 am. Some source!

At least JW can't be accused of investigation. All they have to do is subscribe to Hoover's on-line to get the information. I guess you will accuse Boeing next or Lockheed Martin or any number of American companies that do business in Saudi Arabia of being in business with the bin laden family which they probably are since the bin laden family does a lot of construction work. But that wouldn't be the style of JW and its followers who would rather paint the Bush Family in a negative light. For you to slander President Bush and his entire family because one of them may be an investor in The Carlyle Group is ludicrous. It is a highly rated Investment Firm with many investors according to Hoover's.

What is this -- class envy or jealously by calling the Bush Family a dynasty and inferring he would sell out the Country for money! Wrong family -- check the clintons!

And for your insinuation that I thought the President lived on his retirement salary from the Federal Government was ludicrous. What kind of moron do you think I am?

32 posted on 10/19/2001 7:06:47 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: BabylonXXX
Please tell us how much the Bush family has tied up? (loser)
33 posted on 10/19/2001 7:13:39 PM PDT by cactmh
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To: dwollmann
could this site have been used for communication of sometype?
34 posted on 10/19/2001 7:15:30 PM PDT by cactmh
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To: BabylonXXX
Can you provide proof that the Bin Laden group was the largest investor in Bush's oil and that James Bath handles $ for the Bin Ladens? An article isn't proof.
35 posted on 10/19/2001 7:19:11 PM PDT by cactmh
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To: BabylonXXX
Do you have ANY IDEA how wealthy the Bush dynasty is?

Why don't you tell us? Give us some support for it too, if you can.

While you're at it, explain the very modest homes Dubya lived in when he grew up in Midland, Texas. Explain to me why Dubya lived in a garage apartment after he got out of the Texas Guard, and had to share costs with a couple of roommates to meet expenses.

Be sure and cover the documented amounts that GHWB had to put into blind trust when he began serving the government, focusing especially on the part regarding the trust being worth far less after he left the Presidency.

I wait to be informed.

36 posted on 10/19/2001 7:21:21 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: BabylonXXX
The Bushes wore wealth way before #41 was president. #41s grandfather was very wealthy and so was Barbara Bushes family. You are such an idiot...
37 posted on 10/19/2001 7:22:31 PM PDT by cactmh
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To: Brandonmark
Reads like a list of targets!
38 posted on 10/19/2001 7:23:42 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: PhiKapMom
Exactly. All shareholders in defense companies will "benefit." This includes mutual funds, pension groups etc.
39 posted on 10/19/2001 7:24:44 PM PDT by cactmh
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To: cactmh
wore = were
40 posted on 10/19/2001 7:27:41 PM PDT by cactmh
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