Islam's God: The Origin of Allah the Moon God

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[Wm Bach]

Why is there such an arugument on this thread that a child's upbringing largely determines his/her choice of religion as a adult?

I don't know. It's self evident, it can be demonstrated empirically, it's common wisdom, and it passes the smell test.

I suppose people will point to periods of social upheaval and forced conversions and argue that that is the norm. People with a weak grip on their own faiths are hyper-sensitive.

[#3Fan]

Do the American people own the homes of those whose doors they kick down for possession of those drugs? I didn't think so.

They transport those drugs on the people's property. They initiated force, they must be whacked.

(frankly I think you're being a bit silly)

I think you're trying like hell to twist your philosophy to facilitate Jesus' actions.

[spunkets]

"Same difference."

Not by a long shot. Words have meaning. Words used with muddled, or no meaning are mere gibberish.

[#3Fan]

A liberatarian who believes what a Libertarian believes is the same in my book whether or not they get together in an organized way. They both try to hold up Conservatives.

[tpaine]

"The American people own the property of the government and the American people have decided that they don't want hard drug dealers on their (the government's) property. The initiation of force is justified."

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Wrong.
A constitutional amendment prohibiting property such as 'hard drugs' could not be passed. -- Altho states may control criminal use of such substances, using due process.

But you should know these simple facts. -- Whats with all the libertarian baiting?

[spunkets]

"A liberatarian who believes what a Libertarian believes...They both try to hold up Conservatives."

That's ridiculous. You're insisting on using muddled meanings for words that have more precise and useful definitions. libertarians don't believe the Libertarians anymore than conservatives believe the Republicans.

[The_Reader_David]

Oh, concerning the hagiography lesson: In obedience to my bishop I am New Calendar. If you are Old Calendar, of course, you'll want to celebrate the memory of St. Harith 13 days hence.

[tpaine]

"I wouldn't call that proof. Most American blacks are descended from whites (and are also genetic Israelites, by the way)."

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For a self touted 'collage educated' fella, you sure seem to have some simplistic views on race. - Where exactly do you rate 'semites' on a scale between caucasians & negros? Are they a seperate 'race'?

[Diamond]

...cognitive disfunction

I have asked this question before, but I am still interested to see a non-theistic explanation of the concept of "cognitive disfunction". Since the concept of dysfunction is related to the ideas of DESIGN and PURPOSE, what do you mean when you imply that someone's cognitive equipment is not working 'properly', or as it 'ought'? Presumably, you cannot view the proper functioning of someone's noetic equipment as functioning in the way it was DESIGNED to function, because in your view, such 'equipment' is not the product of DESIGN, but solely the result of a natural, non-purposed, impersonal series of cosmic accidents. So what do you mean by the phrase?

Cordially,

[Ohioan]

Surely you must see the foolishness in trying to redefine someone else's religion for them!

One of the strongest principles of Islam is their hostility to any form of idol worship. That is why, many of the religious will not even permit themselves to be photographed; why the images of their rulers--the religious ones--do not ordinarily appear on their coins or money.

The Koran defines the God that it recognizes as the same God who dealt with Noah, with Moses, with Abraham; the God who decreed Mary's immaculate conception of Jesus. It makes no more sense to try to redefine the God of the Koran in terms of some earlier idol, than it would to redefine the God of the Old or New Testament in terms of some idol, that some earlier people called "God." You cannot redefine other people's faith, and you destroy your credibility by trying to do so.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

[winstonchurchill]

I go to the local Buddhist temple each weekend they are the only faith other than Taoism which just makes intuitive sense

Right. Now I understand why you have so much trouble making sense. When my grandkids bollix something, they want a 'do-over.' Maybe you should 'intuit over.'

[winstonchurchill]

0119 'adam {aw-dam'} of unknown derivation; TWOT - 26b; v AV - dyed red 5, red 4 ruddy 1; 10 1) to be red, red..."

Pardon me, but by your reasoning doesn't this 'prove' Adam to have been a American Indian?

[Who is George Salt?]

You cannot redefine other people's faith, and you destroy your credibility by trying to do so.

Very well stated. And what goes around comes around.

[#3Fan]

Wrong. A constitutional amendment prohibiting property such as 'hard drugs' could not be passed. -- Altho states may control criminal use of such substances, using due process. But you should know these simple facts. -- Whats with all the libertarian baiting?

Apparently you're late to the conversation and didn't read the exchange. We're not talking legally, we're talking libertarian philosophy as it relates to Jesus' actions.

[#3Fan]

That's ridiculous. You're insisting on using muddled meanings for words that have more precise and useful definitions. libertarians don't believe the Libertarians anymore than conservatives believe the Republicans.

Most Conservatives vote Republican and most libertarians would like to vote Libertarian. The fact that you're turning into a grade school teacher complaining about semantics in this conversaion proves that your points already gave up their ground long ago. Libertarians are Liberatarians, Conservatives are Conservatives, it doesn't matter how you spell it.

[#3Fan]

That's a concordance. It's not Scripture. Show me scripture that Adam was white. If you can't, you've just shot your credibility in front of hundreds, if not thousands, of people.

A concordance takes English words and concordes them into the original language. The bible wasn't written in English, it was written in Hebrew in Genesis. When you read the bible, it's necessary to have a Hebrew dictionary, (which is what a concordance is). The word that was translated into the English word "Adam" means "ruddy complected" in Hebrew. In other words, "ruddy complected" was in the original manuscripts. And besides, the bible says that David was ruddy, Jesus was ruddy, and the Nazerites were ruddy. It's clear the family was ruddy.

Did I say Bush was the antichrist? I don't believe him to be, so I'd never say such a thing.

A lot of tinfoilers think the Bush's are in on an NWO world domination plot. I'm surprised you don't know that.

May God bless and keep you and yours through these troubled times.

Can't complain.

[#3Fan]

For a self touted 'collage educated' fella, you sure seem to have some simplistic views on race.

Jealousy is an ugly thing.

- Where exactly do you rate 'semites' on a scale between caucasians & negros? Are they a seperate 'race'?

Semites are sons of Shem. Most Americans and Most British are Semites. I'm a semite. You probably are too. American blacks have been in America for 500 years, over 90% of them are part Semite being that their DNA were combined with descendents of Britain for the most part.

[#3Fan]

Pardon me, but by your reasoning doesn't this 'prove' Adam to have been a American Indian?

Ruddy is rosy. American Indians are dark red. If you want to believe that high cheekboned American Indian types populated the middle east, go ahead.