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Islam's God: The Origin of Allah the Moon God
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Posted on 10/23/2001 8:39:39 AM PDT by spycatcher

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To: #3Fan
Ruddy is rosy. American Indians are dark red. If you want to believe that high cheekboned American Indian types populated the middle east, go ahead.

So, now Adam is "rosy." Give me a small break.

No, that would be "sarcasm" I was attempting. Your whole inquiry on the racial characteristics of Adam is looney tunes -- and futile.

281 posted on 10/24/2001 8:02:18 PM PDT by winstonchurchill
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To: OWK
I know where you stand on religious issues, which is your right. But, since you definitely don't believe in God, what is it to you to offer replies on religious threads? No disrespect, but if you don't believe, why would you waste your time on an issue that to you doesn't exist?

Just wondering.

282 posted on 10/24/2001 8:13:07 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: OWK
If you consider geographical location to be a prime indicator as to what religion a person adheres to, then you have a point. But, you are considering mere religion. Those of us who are Christians are not religious.

Let me state that again, those of us who are regenerated, blood-bought, blood-washed Christians are not religious.

Ours is a relationship with the Son of God, and that relationship was revealed by the Holy Spirit.

The term "religion" sums up theocratic definitions, so it is correct to say that Christianity is a religion. But it is so much more than that.

Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. Therefore, once the Gospel has been preached, without respect to geographical positioning, a person becomes converted (i.e. redeemed) once the Holy Spirit quickens that person's spirit so that he can "see" the truth of the Gospel. This regeneration brings confession, repentance, and acceptance of the Sacrifice that allows one to have a personal relationship with God through his revealed Word, Jesus Christ.

Once regeneration and redemption has been completed, the believer doesn't need any type of "religion" whatsoever, therefore, true Christians are not "religious."

You can rail against religion all you want. God Himself knows that He is not welcome in most "religious" institutions.

283 posted on 10/24/2001 8:47:51 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: winstonchurchill
INTUIT or inuit,eve had an apple adam had a wang
284 posted on 10/24/2001 9:16:28 PM PDT by Governor StrangeReno
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To: winstonchurchill
So, now Adam is "rosy." Give me a small break.

Look up "ruddy" in the dictionary, goofy. It's rosy.

No, that would be "sarcasm" I was attempting. Your whole inquiry on the racial characteristics of Adam is looney tunes -- and futile.

I have the bible to back me up. If you disagree with me, why don't you document your claims?

286 posted on 10/24/2001 11:42:39 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: hogwaller
I'm still waiting for the scripture that says Adam was white. Your credibility is waning quickly.

Adam's name means "ruddy complected" in the Hebrew manuscripts (God's word that was translated into English for the bible). What more do you want?

287 posted on 10/24/2001 11:46:29 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: hogwaller
Here's more from the family of Adam:

1Sa 16:12 And he sent, and brought him in. Now he [was] ruddy, [and] withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this [is] he. (David)

1Sa 17:42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was [but] a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance. (David)

Sgs 5:10 My beloved [is] white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand. (Jesus)

Lam 4:7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing [was] of sapphire: (Jesus' home)

Adam was ruddy. Read it and weep.

288 posted on 10/24/2001 11:51:59 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Ohioan
There are some Moslems who are striving to find the true God, but in this age of moral relativity it becomes popular to say two mutually exclusive things can be compatible; they can't. Allah can't be the author of evil and still be God. God can't be a friend to man and be Allah. Jesus who is God can't say love your enemies and Allah say kill the infidel and they be the same.

Jesus is Issa in the Bible, Issa is another name for Esau. How can a Moslem say, We love Jesus but he's Esau, so he's not talking about the same person. It's sort of like if I tell a Catholic, I really love your pope, but he's the antichrist. Or I really follow your pope as one of our religious guides, but he's an atheist. Of course, a Moslem is not going to agree with the premise that Allah is derived from Ilah the moon-god, but why do so many Christians accept the premise that Moslems love Jesus when they say things about him that should be blasphemous to any Christian? Is it because we are ignorant or just that Moslems stand up more for Allah than some Christians stand up for Jesus.

My grandfather was born a Moslem in Syria, later became an Orthodox Christian. There are a lot of Moslems who mix Islam with mysticism, and lots of shamanism and witchcraft practiced in Middle Eastern countries, etc. so I said above that the link between the moon god and Allah is intriguing, that doesn't mean I'm attempting to insult a whole religious group, that would be insulting my own great grandparents and a beautiful culture minus the militant Islam (and the food is good too). You'll just never get me to agree that Allah is God.

289 posted on 10/25/2001 9:04:54 AM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: hogwaller
I only weep for your desperation in trying to prove the superiority of your race.

How am I saying my race is superior? Since you think Adam was an Arab, does that mean you think Arabs are superior?

All you just showed me said nothing about Adam being white. It mentions other people, but not Adam.

The name Adam translates to ruddy complected in the Hebrew. If you want to close your ears to truth, there's nothing I can do I guess. The bible flat out says that Jesus and David were ruddy complected. That should be a big hint that their fathers were too. The caucasion skin pigment trait isn't dominant so if Jesus and David were ruddy that means many if not all of their fathers were ruddy. I guess you can't put two and two together.

God made all races, and it's a crying shame you feel so crummy about yourself and whatever bitterness you hold that you must resort to the one of the oldest lies in the book. That lie is "I am better than my brother."

You are a liar. I never said that.

God bless you and your loved ones. I pray you find the truth, and turn away from lies.

If Adam, Jesus, and David weren't ruddy, then why does the bible have these lines in them and tell me what they mean since you think you have a monopoly on truth:

1Sa 16:12 And he sent, and brought him in. Now he [was] ruddy, [and] withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this [is] he. (David)

1Sa 17:42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was [but] a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance. (David)

Sgs 5:10 My beloved [is] white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand. (Jesus)

Lam 4:7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing [was] of sapphire: (Jesus' home)

If you think there was nothing but brown-skinned people in the middle east, then explain these lines to me.

291 posted on 10/25/2001 11:33:24 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Wm Bach
Same reason the jews keep the Star of David around... ancestor's worhip of Ishtar.

Huh?

Try picturing the following: the "Star of David" is actually first and foremost "The Magen David" -- it is two triangles: one pointing up, one pointing down.

"So above, so below..."

293 posted on 10/25/2001 11:58:50 PM PDT by wayne_shrugged
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To: #3Fan
The name Adam translates to ruddy complected in the Hebrew.

I'd really like to know where you get that idea. In Hebrew, the word for Adam is, well, I'm not sure how to write Hebrew on here. However, here's a Strong's reference for you: Strong's [0120] Adam. Adam means man or mankind. Where'd you get your information that it means ruddy?

-The Hajman-
294 posted on 10/26/2001 12:18:42 AM PDT by Hajman
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To: OWK
Except, you could judge these two cultures by how they have prospered.

Except, we do live in an age where both scriptures are available to all who want to read, and choose.

I'm reading the bible, and am not very interested, I admit, what one of the distant tribes wrote hundreds of years after the good news of man's salvation.

295 posted on 10/26/2001 12:19:05 AM PDT by withteeth
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To: spycatcher
When Mohammed went into the cave to find god (and let me tell you here, that if you want to find GOD, a cave is not the place to look - a better choice is your local church). When Mohammed had a visitation in the cave, it was "an angel of light".

Excuse me, but the Bible clearly says that an angel of light is from the devil - not God!!

Perhaps this will help some people realize why Islam is so full of hate and death!

296 posted on 10/26/2001 12:27:06 AM PDT by Sueann
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To: OWK
exactly
297 posted on 10/26/2001 12:33:59 AM PDT by mugwump62
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To: hogwaller
adam was the color of God, we are all descended from Him, we are all the same on the inside, genetics and adaptation changed the outside
298 posted on 10/26/2001 12:36:28 AM PDT by mugwump62
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To: mugwump62
I implore anyone, Please refute me.
299 posted on 10/26/2001 12:39:39 AM PDT by mugwump62
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To: spycatcher
Horse Hockey!

Islam traces its lineage directly to Abraham. Allah is the God of Abraham. If you'll pause to review your scripture, Abraham's second son, Isaac became Abraham's heir. Ishmael rightfully expected to receive the special blessing of his father and be his heir. This is the archetype for the rift between Islam and Judaism. From the Islamic perspective, the when Sarah and Isaac conspired to steal the blessing from Ishmael, they also stole for the Jews the designation of "Chosen".

Given that this story is the seed of the two faiths and that Islam is represented by the spurned son, it's not that hard to imagine them having a harsher view of the Father, now, is it?

cj

300 posted on 10/26/2001 1:02:52 AM PDT by Cyrano Jones
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