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CLINTON: THE PORTRAIT OF DORIAN GRAY
Dqban22
| November 10, 2001
| Dqban22
Posted on 11/10/2001 8:18:25 AM PST by Dqban22
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posted on
11/10/2001 8:18:25 AM PST
by
Dqban22
To: Dqban22
"Clinton, who complained about the mistreating of the American Indians, has responsibility for defrauding millions of dollars from the Indian Reservations Funds during his administration while they were under the care of Clintons Interior Department." Excellent point! The blame for his actions or acceptance of failure is not something the Clintons are familiar with. Blaming others is their modus operandi.
I thought this was most telling of his own words:
"If you live in a country where you're never required to take responsibility for yourself, where you never even have to ask whether there's something you should be doing to solve your own problems, then people are kept in kind of a permanent state of collective immaturity and it becomes quite easy for them to believe that someone else's success is the cause of their distress."
It's my belief as so often with both of the Clintons, they condemn themselves when they mean to condemn others.
Regards, Jen
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posted on
11/10/2001 8:39:27 AM PST
by
IVote2
To: Dqban22
You should come around here more often, Dq.....
To: JohnHuang2
Ping!
To: Dqban22; Howlin; Miss Marple; Hillary's Lovely Legs; Billie; Snow Bunny...
Excellent, DQ!!
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posted on
11/10/2001 8:52:07 AM PST
by
Carolina
To: Dqban22
Wonderful article. I just saw Mrs. BillClinton on CNN and noticed how she was beginning to hit with her old "Republicans are evil" crap. She "reminded" the viewing audience that "we" enjoyed eight years of prosperity while her husband was president, and that the Republican tax cut has caused ALL our financial problems..... Oh, and she was WEARING OLD CRUSTY!!!!!
To: Dqban22
The master communicator was rambling, incoherent and certainly divisive It should be obvious to the most casual observer that Clinton is a textbook psychopath.
Whose agenda is served by people who wish to conceal the fact that Clinton is a psychopath?
To: Dqban22
Tell me, friend, did you bother to read Clinton's speech before you crafted your reply to it? I know you didn't.
Here's the full text. Read it and you'll see that your response has nothing to do with what Clinton actually said. And don't tell give me "Salon liberal media" crap because it's a literal transcription. Read it and think for yourself.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/11/10/speech/index.html
Nowhere did Clinton justify the actions of Sept 11. Everywhere did he say that this war must be prosectuted to our fullest ability.
Now let's talk about the "price" comment, since that's what the talking heads on TV seem to be fixated on. If you read the above link, you'll see very clearly that this comment was in reference to the Crusades, not slavery or the treatment of Indians or, indeed, anything America did. Not that this prevented the Washington Times from lying about it, or you from repeating that lie.
Clinton simply said this: Muslims in the middle east still resent the West because of the Crusades. A simple enough statement, and not a very controversial one. Further, he made in the context of using the Crusades as an example for why acts of terror never accomplish their intended purpose. But you, in your desire to slander Clinton, willfully closed your eyes to this argument.
Everyone has reasons to rip on Clinton, but we don't need to fabricate new ones out of whole cloth by attributing words to the man that he didn't say. Show at least a little bit of the honesty and character you claim to champion.
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posted on
11/10/2001 9:23:02 AM PST
by
Von Rex
To: Dqban22
he was most respected and admired by the students of that prestigious Jesuit institution. Would that statement imply that William Jefferson Clinton represents the best that a Jesuit education can produce?
To: Von Rex
Nothing will change the fact that Bill Clinton is the greatest traitor in American history, since he was President Of The United States when the bulk of his numerous acts of Treason were committed.
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posted on
11/10/2001 9:32:58 AM PST
by
onedoug
To: Dqban22
Well said, DQ. It would be good advice for sick willy to avoid nose candy and all recreational pharmacuticals before a speaking engagement. Then, given the audience, it went unnoticed.
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posted on
11/10/2001 9:33:30 AM PST
by
Adrastus
To: Von Rex
You don't get it, do you? The mere fact that those words were spoken by Bill Clinton makes the entire speech fair game for attack. Since Clinton is not one of the loyal minions of the Cause, it is neccesary to spin anything he says in such a way that he will appear to be the unAmerican criminal that he is. It makes no difference that, had a true conservative said the same thing, the speech would be worthy of accolades. If there is one thing that sums up the spirit of America today, it is that loyalty is far more important than correctness.
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posted on
11/10/2001 9:38:20 AM PST
by
TooRight
To: Dqban22
Adolph Hitler blamed the German people when he was in his bunker,
shortly before he offed himself. With buildings in ruin around him.
If only.
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posted on
11/10/2001 9:43:34 AM PST
by
Slyfox
To: TooRight
it is neccesary to spin anything he saysUnfortunately EVERYTHING X42 says is SPIN, or maybe it ISN'T........or.. well... I guess whatever is, is, is necessary to decipher whether it is spin or isn't.
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posted on
11/10/2001 9:52:43 AM PST
by
PISANO
To: Bisesi
I guess what I was saying is that the speaker is more important than the message. When Bill Maher described using long-range weapons as "cowardly", he needed to be castigated for it. When Rush Limbaugh described the same campaign as "timid", he was just speaking the truth. The difference being that Maher is an unAmerican commie who is obviously pushing his lefty agenda with that sort of statement. Limbaugh, OTOH, is criticizing the Clintonization of the military. See what I mean?
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posted on
11/10/2001 9:59:41 AM PST
by
TooRight
To: Von Rex
Clinton simply said this: Muslims in the middle east still resent the West because of the Crusades. A simple enough statement, and not a very controversial one. True, this is not a controversial statement. However, it reflects more on how history is taught than on actual history.
Islam spread by the sword, almost conquering Europe. The Crusades provided a unifying theme for a counter-attack that could not have hoped to succeed without some way to unify the otherwise mutually suspicious and/or warring nations of Europe.
In other words, the Crusades were a counter-attack against Islamic aggression. The original Islamic attack and the European response was spread over several hundred years. Only by selectively ignoring the origins can this episode be cast as western and/or Christian aggression against Islam.
To: Dqban22
FReep Halibut Award-- Dishonorable Mention
To: Dqban22
Notice the old demon can't give an unifying speech to save his life. He built his Presidency on pitting the nation against each other. His wife and daughter do the same thing. I wish we could just strap them all to an A-bomb and drop it on Bin Laden.
To: Dqban22
Good job....well written
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posted on
11/10/2001 10:40:47 AM PST
by
woofie
To: Von Rex
'Muslims in the middle east still resent the West because of the Crusades'
But, then, America was never IN a Crusade, were we. Please explain the why's of Clinton's connection of the terror attacks on OUR NATION, as opposed to an attack on religion, as relates to the Crusades. But then, Libs are short on logic, long on equivocation, I don't expect much more than a 'you're Christian therefore you're guilty' response.
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posted on
11/10/2001 10:41:39 AM PST
by
Darheel
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