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FBI: Explosion Aboard Airbus
CNN | 11/12/01

Posted on 11/12/2001 7:06:29 AM PST by dep

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To: Smogger
You know, just like the Bermuda triangle bull to avoid us understanding that Castro was in fact downing our airplanes in international waters. Who knows?
241 posted on 11/12/2001 11:40:19 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: moe
sound (in air) at 1000 feet/second or about 300mph.

Not quite. 1000 feet/second is 60,000 feet/minute. There are 5,280 feet in a mile. Rounding it down to 5,000, sound would be 12 miles/minute. Multiply that by 60 minutes and you get 720 miles/hour (not 300mph).

242 posted on 11/12/2001 11:43:09 AM PST by VoodooEconomist
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To: dep
The White House spokesman declined to rule terrorism in or out as a possible cause of the crash but said he would not dispute the assessment of U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, who said there was no preliminary evidence of terrorism.

Actually, there's tons of preliminary evidence that it was a bomb and absolutely no preliminary evidence that it was an accident.

These people had better not dare to start to cover this up.

Scads of people saw and explosion and the engine and debris fall off, there is video footage of the engine lying on the ground intact away from the crash site.

The strange thing is that the Administration, at least, is saying they have no evidence one way or the other while the usual suspects say all the usual preposterous things.

243 posted on 11/12/2001 11:44:09 AM PST by Rome2000
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To: carton253
Obviously, you don't know what means.

It's obvious to anyone who isn't an idiot, that looks at the scene either in r/l or via tv. The plane exploded in mid-air. It's either an accident or a terrorist attack but they shouldn't rule out terrorism so fast especially when that's most likely what it was. Nor should they lie to us. Only an idiot would think that the plane hit the ground before it exploded and would discount eye witness accounts.

244 posted on 11/12/2001 11:44:13 AM PST by chantal7
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To: Duke1983
or go buy a car) Did that. Next?
245 posted on 11/12/2001 11:44:43 AM PST by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS
The White House spokesman declined to rule terrorism in or out as a possible cause of the crash but said he would not dispute the assessment of U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, who said there was no preliminary evidence of terrorism

This is horsesh*t. With NO evidence to the contrary the assumption should that the crash was the result of terrorism not vice versa. This is the most prudent assumption and errors on the side of caution. If you find out that it was a mechanical failure later (many months maybe down the road) then no harm. In the meantimes we should be redouble our airplane security efforts and our efforts to destroy terrorist EVERYWHERE!

The powers that be should be less concerned with the immediate (perhaps irreversable) economic damage that this crash is going to cause (espescially if it is proven it was a terrorist act) and more concerned with the immidiate threat to all of our lives.

246 posted on 11/12/2001 11:52:12 AM PST by Smogger
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To: chantal7
Didn't you hear? People who actually saw the plane explode should not be listened to, we should wait for the usual preposterous story from the usual preposterous Government officials.

Somebody in the White House had better stop this ridiculousness quickly, otherwise the percentage of Americans who still trust the Government will be reduced to zero.

How does it help the airline industry if people are led to believe that, in addition to possible terrorist attack, the flying public should also be prepared for engines falling off for no particular reason?

247 posted on 11/12/2001 11:56:08 AM PST by Rome2000
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
In regards to your #7:

It is 11/12/01

248 posted on 11/12/2001 12:04:03 PM PST by Feiny
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To: chantal7
Ok let me try that again.

what means.

Hopefully that will work. If not, I said "rant off".

249 posted on 11/12/2001 12:06:36 PM PST by chantal7
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
Problem is they don't want our trust and could care less what we think, feel or anything else we the (small)people are at the mercy of the elites. Been going on for years and will continue. This new administration as good as it is has little control on the big guys that want things to stay the way THEY want
250 posted on 11/12/2001 12:13:57 PM PST by conservativejunkie
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To: chantal7
We need to find them and we need to get all our hackers, phreakers, whatever other kind of info techs, officially or unoffically, and set them loose on the terrorists

How about me? I'm a slacker.

251 posted on 11/12/2001 12:14:47 PM PST by Jack Barbara
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To: Smogger
Any reason why you are talking to me?
252 posted on 11/12/2001 12:18:08 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: Rome2000
I totally agree. :)

But what makes so sense to me is that the government can't see the distrust they are bringing upon themselves.

Do they think that the majority of the American public are that stupid? Or is the government targeting the helpless demonrats that believe everything the government tells them?

But you are right, regardless of whether it's a terrorist attack or engines falling off, it still hurts the already struggling airline industry.

I won't fly again for a very long time, if ever, and part of the reason for that is that I won't know how safe the airlines really are because the government is lying about too much and the government isn't allowing the pilots and qualified passengers to fly armed AND we still have lots of the Islamic terrorists in our country and many of them work at the airports as pilots and menial labor and can plant bombs and other weapons of terror on the planes.

253 posted on 11/12/2001 12:20:56 PM PST by chantal7
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To: chantal7
I say it's 60/40 terrorist. People who reference AA DC-10 O'Hare in '79 are not supporting the accident theory. In that case, the pylons were cracked, and as the plane rotated and all the weight on the wing shifted to the engine, the bolts completely disintegrated, the engine flipped over the wing, and the plane got about 100-500 feet airborne, cleared the runway, rolled and crashed in a field just a few hundred yards from O'Hare. If this were an accident, it would have to have involved the turbine, the severing of fuel lines in the wing, and an explosion. However, it sounds like the explosion/fire occured first.

the bit about the pilot dumping fuel does not make sense given how quickly this unfolded. The fuel in Jamaica Bay is easily explained by the detached wing section, the explosion, and dispersing fuel. Time of day is troubling here. maximum exposure. Maximum impact....

254 posted on 11/12/2001 12:22:23 PM PST by Dirk McQuickly
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To: chantal7
bold off?
255 posted on 11/12/2001 12:22:48 PM PST by chantal7
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To: chantal7
Hmm hey! I can't get the bold off. Can anyone fix it?

Thanks in advance. :)

256 posted on 11/12/2001 12:23:51 PM PST by chantal7
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To: RobbyS
nah! Just requoting your requote. ;-)
257 posted on 11/12/2001 12:34:58 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Lael
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates, Oct. 13 —

A spokesman for Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida network vowed Sunday to wage new attacks against U.S. and British interests. “We also advise Americans and Britons, especially Muslims, children and all those who oppose U.S. policy, not to ride planes or live in high buildings,” said spokesman Sulaiman Abu Ghaith. The White House dismissed the latest threat as “propaganda.”

IN A STATEMENT broadcast on Qatar’s al-Jazeera television, Abu Ghaith told U.S. and British “infidels” to leave the Persian Gulf region, or else “fire will flare underneath their feet.”

Earlier, President Bush said in a radio address that the U.S. government was taking “strong precautions” to protect Americans at home and abroad from more terror attacks. Abu Ghaith’s comments were the second set of warnings al-Qaida made to the United States in the past week.

Bin Laden, suspected of masterminding numerous terror strikes on U.S. interests, including the Sept. 11 attacks in New York and Washington, has long spoken out against a Western presence in the gulf region, especially in his homeland of Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden also has railed against Israel and U.S. involvement in the Mideast, as well as the U.N. sanctions on Iraq.

“We tell Bush and others in the U.S. administration that the storms will not stop, particularly the storm of hijacked planes, until the strikes against Afghanistan end and until Palestinian land is liberated,” Abu Ghaith said.


258 posted on 11/12/2001 12:40:38 PM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
While the daughter of the smartest woman in the world opines over Bush's tax cuts....

Yes. I've read about that. Strikes me odd that the American people have received more empathy from Valdmir Putin than Hillary Clinton.

259 posted on 11/12/2001 12:44:35 PM PST by GVnana
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To: feinswinesuksass
In regards to your Post #248:

221 posted on 11/12/01 12:02 PM Pacific by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh

260 posted on 11/12/2001 12:45:23 PM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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