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NYC OK'S PRAYER IN SCHOOL - - FOR MUSLIMS
NewsMax | Thursday Nov. 15, 2001 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:48 PM PST by truther

NYC OK's Prayer in School -- for Muslims

That anti-religion bastion of political correctness, the New York City public school system, has quietly sanctioned prayer in schools -- but only of you're a Muslim who wants to worship during Ramadan.

In a talk radio exclusive, New York's WABC Radio has been airing reports on the school system's special program for Muslims for weeks.

Late Wednesday, Schools Chancellor Harold Levy finally confirmed that the religious double standard indeed exists. "Christian parents would probably love to have a place where their children could pray during school hours," WABC newsman George Weber said Thursday. "They don't... But the Muslim kids are getting their very own prayer room in New York City public schools."

"The New York City public school system is going to accommodate Muslim students allowing them space for prayer" during the five week Muslim holy season of Ramadan, reported Weber's partner, Babita Hariani.

"In a statement, though, school's Chancellor Harold Levy adds the prayer 'cannot interfere with classes or infringe on other students'", she explained.

That's not exactly what the Chancellor's office told the New York Post, which reported Thursday that Levy spokeswoman Margie Feinberg told them Muslim students will be allowed to cut classes in order to pray and then reschedule them later.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christianlist; hughhewitt; islam; publicschools
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To: yoe
The liberals who run the schools want anything BUT Christmas to be celebrated. We used to have a Christmas party at our college; it was given by the President. Then it was "holiday" party, now it's "end of the semester" gathering. I hardly attend any longer. It's such a farce.
61 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:10 PM PST by Marysecretary
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To: truther
Some folks are more equal than others, it seems. Schools ought not be breeding grounds for jihadist sedition.
62 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:20 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Michael2001
They are looking for an answer within their own nether passage.
63 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:21 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: OneIfByLand
I'm inclined to go with none of them.
65 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:47 PM PST by Marysecretary
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To: truther
So, what are we going to do about it? Sit around here and whine or take advantage of what appears to me to be a very good opportunity to (a) capitalize and expand the concept of prayer in public facilities and/or (b) expose the leftists for promoting a Muslim-specific agenda?
66 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:02 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Yehuda
"[S]ome Gentiles think that the cure is to convert these poor fools into Christians . . ."

That's because some people conflate Jewishness with Liberalism. Of course this is not true, as attested by the significant Jewish and philo-Semitic presence on this forum. But the problem with Levy et al. is that they themselves are often the ones doing the conflating, thus causing endless confusion in the population at large, as well as providing grist for the mills of neo-Nazi anti-Semitism.

"Christian" Leftists do the same thing. In its most extreme form, I'm thinking specifically of the so-called Liberation Theology types in South America.

But your solution is the correct one. Simply having these people change religious affiliations would be like changing the dust-cover on a book; the contents remain the same. They need a complete spiritual overhaul, to exorcise the (Satanic) influence of Liberalism and replace it with Orthodoxy.

68 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:53 PM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: Yehuda
Actually I've learned that conservatives come in many religions, at least political conservatives. Every moral conservative seems to base his values on the Bible, though, whether it is Old or Old and New Testament.
70 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:32 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: truther
This is just plains nuts!
71 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:32 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
I could almost understand how Islamic intruders could get away with this nonsense if the ethnic/religious background of most of NYC's public school teachers were not Jewish. Are these people so blind that they do not see what happens when Moslems are allowed a foothold in a non-Moslem country? Have they no relatives in Israel? Are they so self-destructive that they want to nurture the cells of Islamist supporters who will eventually provide recruits and funds for the Jihad against, among others, the Jews?

Or is it just that they hate Christians more than they fear Moslems?

I think you hit so many points right. I, too, am quite amazed at the clear double standard. I am afraid, however, that you inadvertantly transposed the verbs in the last sentence; that is, I think that many Jews fear Christians more than they hate Moslems?

I do not think it is rational at all; rather, it is baggage that most Jews, including those in America, acquired from many centuries of repression and persecution in Europe. In comparison, the treatment of Jews in the Arab world was rather benevolent --- until recently, that is: the creation of Israel has been viewed from the outset as intrusion of the infidel into the mighty Califate. As a consequence, 500,000 members of Jewish communities, some of which existed for the thousands of years, have been uprooted and expelled from the Arab lands and absorbed by Israel. [A notable and srtiking exception is Turkey --- a non-Arabic but Muslim country that has no history whatsoever of persection of Jews. Ever since the Sultan invited the Jews expelled from Spain by Isabella the Catholic in 1492, Jews apppear to have lived there entirely unmolested]. But this is a rather recent history; for most Jews it has become a part of cerebrally acquired knowledge, not the folklore. In contrast, the persecutions in Europe have been ongoing for centuries: they are a part of the psyche and folklore. It well may be that the apprehension of Christians is instinctive and at odds with reality.

This is rather sad. For most of the American history the country was profoundly and overtly Cristian but, as is well known, there were no massacres and such [Of course, one could point out discriminatory acts and laws such as barring of Jews from settlement in early Massachusetts, etc. --- but the point is that, in contrast to Europe, Jews seldom had to fear for their lives. After the Word War II, anti-Semitism has become rather unpopular altogether.] At the same time, the overall culture in the country was more moral in the sense that is common to both Christians and Jews It is my personal opinion, therefore, that a greater presence of Christianity in the public life should be welcomed by the Jewish community. Yet Jewish leadership is somewhat entrapped in the stereoptypes acquired in the "old country."

There is a second, smaller reason, for the phenomenon you reference: messianism and rooting for the underdog is deeply rooted in the Jewish psyche (funny, this appears to be so even with those who claim to be completely secular). Thus, many of them sympathize with the "stranger in their midst" --- in this case, Muslims. Raised during peaceful times and taking for granted the long-lived invincibility of the U.S., they often go to far in implementing this part of the liberal agendum. Needless to say, like so many other well-intentioned deeds of the modern-day liberals, this is silly and suicidal --- as you rihtfully pointed out.

72 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:48 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Yehuda; rebdov; PRND21; Travis McGee; JohnHuang2; kattracks; Gracey; markfnkl; Sueann; harpseal...
So outrageous as to make this unbelievable! Who's on this decision board?

FYI & your imput!

76 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:49 PM PST by onyx
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To: onyx
Thanks for the ping
77 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:49 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: onyx
bump
78 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:50 PM PST by PRND21
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To: RGVTx
Sean talked about it a while this afternoon, and also discussed it on Hannity & Colmes, although I missed that segment.
79 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:51 PM PST by agrace
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To: onyx
"The New York City public school system is going to accommodate Muslim students allowing them space for prayer" during the five week Muslim holy season of Ramadan, reported Weber's partner, Babita Hariani.

Outrageous is right! Thanks for the flag.

80 posted on 11/16/2001 1:22:00 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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