Posted on 11/22/2001 8:41:04 PM PST by redrock
What people seem to forget is that most of the laws we decry today were thought benevolent and necessary in their day as well. Most fail to realize how time and "interpretation" can twist the original intent(think Constitution).
It is up to each and everyone of us to speak out against what may seem necessary but can easily be twisted into something far more sinister.
You are correct, all of these Bush apologists would be screaming if Clinton or Gore had done similar.
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I'm glad I followed you here.
What we are living in is a uniquely American version of the Fall of the Roman Empire.
Yes.
redrock, outstanding post -- I don't completely agree with LNS, but he has some good points.
Regards
I do agree. My America has died. I do not know whether it will arise again like the Phoenix Bird from the ashes, but at this moment, my concern is for my family only. It is they whom I will take care of. I imagine that many people throughout history have thought the same way when they saw their own nations die.
Bush did this to appease the NAACP and the democrats. By doing this he proved that he didn't give a tin-plated shit about Texas history or the people of Texas. He's a resident of Texas and a professional politician, that's all. If he's a real Texan, I'll take mine rare.
And I like those kind of people....
redrock
It's been tried.....but he's too independent I guess for most.
redrock
A shiver went up my spine when I read this statement.
When I finally got to this statement, I then dismissed this guy as a charter member of the tinfoil-hat club;
Yes, whoever attacked the Trade Towers, damaged the Pentagon, and killed thousands of innocent victims should pay for it with their lives. Many of them have been dead since September 11. Nor will I accuse Bush of having engineered those atrocities for the sake of power -- although there are plenty of writers doing exactly that right now.
He might as well have added 'If you get my drift'.
But there was more - oh yes, it gets better, or stranger;
I do accuse him, his father, and their vile cronies and allies of making totalitarian plans for us and then waiting, just like vultures on a cactus, for some horrific event that would appear to justify them.
Yeah, that's it, Bush and his father are latent totalitarians, waiting to pounce on a naive and clueless America. I suppose they cackle and rub their hands together while they burn the constitution over a pyre. Geesh.
This is even worse than the hate-Bush looney left stuff I've seen.
Well, I wouldn't want to spoil the Bush-bashing fun here and risk accusations of being naive, blind and probably possessed or something not to see the evil that the Bush administration represents to this L. Smith guy, the award winning author.
I Guess I'll have to just sit back and wait to be 'sent to the camps'. Right. Then I won't be able to tell Neil Smith he was wrong, but until that fateful day, I will tell Mr. Smith that whatever conclusions he may draw from American history, his predictions indicate to me that he's a loon. Of course, good news doesn't sell many books so I doubt Smith will lighten up any time soon; looming extinction seen by only the enlightened few is a lot more comforting and offers that instant gratification some folks need, badly. Buy the books, read the articles, prepare to be 'sent to the camps' by 'them'. Sorry Mr. Smith, but I'll pass.
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Too True, my FRiend, tooooo true.
But, by then, the new laws of 'Guilty, Until Proven Innocent' will have become the Norm !! !! !!
You have the idea that you can prevent another 9/11. The people have demanded that the authorities take action to prevent another 9/11. They and you both think that If you just pass the right legislation and regulations that will allow the authorities to inspect, limit, regulate and control the people you serve, this atrocity will never happen again.
You are sadly rushing headlong down the wrong path. Our government is given the task of defending our shores, guaranteeing our freedom and enforcing our constitution and the bill of rights.
Our founding fathers grudgingly accepted a new government. They knew by the collective scars on their backs and chafe marks from the yokes so recently cast off, that by God they'd not willingly create a new master that was as tyrannical as the last.
They understood that government was force, and force was the one monopoly granted to our government and it was to be used only when our freedom was at stake. They grudgingly accepted this new government because the bill of rights so firmly bound this new government with severe limits of what it could do and where it could not go.
The result of this radical idea that people own their lives and the fruits of their labor was 200 years of unprecedented progress against poverty, disease and hunger. When people are not shackled with bureaucrats, despots and dictators and others who seek to CONTROL their energies, they are free to use those energies to seek to improve their condition. America has done so tremendously.
You have to ask yourself why for 6,000 years mankind has struggled to feed himself, lived in mud huts and died before he reached the age of 50 years. What made the last 200 years different?
One word - Freedom
Freedom from a central authority that proposes to know better how a man's life may be spent.
Freedom from leeches and parasites (sometimes known as bureaucrats, intellectuals or lawyers) that know better than the common man how his money and energies should be spent.
Today's Americans are willing to trade all of this progress for security. They demand it of their government.
The cries resound to their masters
· You MUST pass a law
· You must take care of us
· You must see that we don't harm ourselves
· You must make life fair
· You must see that we don't starve in the twilight of our lives
· You must make life safe and secure and our lives easy
· You must control us, for we can't control ourselves
Freedom is hard
Freedom means that you must be responsible and productive or you will starve. Too many today place little value on their freedom; they would rather be secure.
Remember that the fall of the great civilizations came after governments were firmly controlling men's lives. It can happen to us. The day could come when the planes will no longer fly, the electricity stops flowing, the food isn't on the store shelves.
Just remember that we wanted security.
Listenhillary
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