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'HARRY' CATCHES HELL FROM CHRISTIANS
New York Post ^ | 11/24/01 | TODD VENEZIA

Posted on 11/24/2001 2:08:47 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:02:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

November 24, 2001 -- Is Harry Potter the spawn of Satan?

That's the opinion at one Christian school in southern Australia, where parents voted yesterday to forbid students from reading about the bespectacled wizard and his preteen cohorts.

The vote was just part of a widespread anti-Harry backlash by religious conservatives angered by the best-selling books' blatant celebration of witchcraft and the occult.


(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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To: JenB
The Webster's Dictionary above is nearly 1800 pages, was a required reference dictionary for my university studies and is in the libraries all around here. Not everything appears online. Things that are written down on paper cannot be erased like things written in electronic digits. "Harry" was around long before the computer was invented. All you have found so far is everywhere that the "Harry" is not. I'm simply telling you and others where "Harry" is -- the Webster's Dictionary .
421 posted on 11/27/2001 7:50:29 AM PST by Woodkirk
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To: AppyPappy
I noticed you bravely ran from the question of naming 50 people who want to ban Potter. I'll leave you to your Christian boogeymen that live under your bed. At least until you and your friends start building the camps to house the focus of your stained-sheet paranoia.

Actually Appy, I know we are far removed from the original article, but in it there is this passage:

The American Library Association says there have been attempts in at least 13 states to ban the book from schools and public libraries.

So, the idea of "boogeymen" is not that far-fetched. There are people who want to ban the book. There was also an incident in Pittsburgh last year(?) in which a local church held a book burning in which the HP series held center stage.

423 posted on 11/27/2001 8:06:56 AM PST by TomB
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To: TomB
Note they do not qualify that statement. It could be one person doing that.
424 posted on 11/27/2001 8:10:34 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
Unlikely, but the fact remains that there are people who do want to ban (burn?) the book. It is a legitimate point.
425 posted on 11/27/2001 8:13:03 AM PST by TomB
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To: tonycavanagh
So you carry on doing what you are doing and that is complaining about a book, and ignoring the real Satan as he parties on down with War, Famine Pestilence and Death.

Tony it would be nice if his activity was all that visible.....those that you fought were kids once..did ya ever wonder what was put in their mind to allow such evil to take control?

Just because someone has cancer you do not ignore a ruptured appendex....satan fights on many levels tailoring his work to the population...in this country..greed,the desire to be in control ,rebellion..and pride...

Evil with different faces

426 posted on 11/27/2001 8:16:00 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: troublesome creek
You're skoozed.
427 posted on 11/27/2001 8:27:15 AM PST by Skooz
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To: Skooz
I remember when "catcher in the rye" was the target for book-burners.
428 posted on 11/27/2001 8:27:22 AM PST by rickmoe
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To: RnMomof7
I don't know why you're so upset about Harry, after all, things could be worse, he could be Catholic!
429 posted on 11/27/2001 8:27:28 AM PST by TomB
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To: JenB
People who have not read the books and still condemn them are worse than fruitcakes - they are dangerous. There are people who literally do not want the Harry Potter books read - by anyone - I've met some of those people. And yes it is harmful when a young teenage girl is told she's commiting mortal sin by reading a book by the same people who seem to have no problem with their children watching 'Pulp Fiction' or tormenting others.

You paint with as broad a brush as you accuse other of doing.

Who has said NO one should be allowed to read Potter? I expect the unsaved to read that and much more..
Who has said that anyone was going to hell for reading Potter? Who has defended 'pulp fiction' ? Who has tormented others? Did you report them to the authorities?

You just make this up as you go along..slandering happily as you go

Born again believers will understand that it is not good or right or in the will of God for them to give place to this in their lives.......so they will dismiss the book..and the movie for what it is.

The rest of you are more than welcome to fill your tank with satan and his works..and smile and find escape where you will. this is America.

I just have sympathy for children who have parents that can not see the potential spiritual harm they do there kids..we will raise a generation of card readers ....and occult lovers,instead of lovers of God.

On 9/11 people kept saying God couldn't have caused this because we are a "Christian " nation. No ,we are in a post Christian era now. We have given God our answer to 9/11...Harry Potter

430 posted on 11/27/2001 8:30:12 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: tonycavanagh
You have got to be kidding me....

WoodKirk, in England we associate woods with evil and witch craft and as for Kirk, it is an old Scottish pagan name.

The word Kirk is the name for church. It is a (celtic)phonetical representation of the word church.('ch' has a 'k' sound.. kinda.)
The interpretation you speak of (that being pagan) is not Scottish at all, rather the reverse. etymologicaly speaking it is a chicken egg thing, Kirk = Church. The name was also atributed to the godess Circe who was supposedly a godess of truth and is represented by a circle.

I find that incredibly funny, because if you take the cirlce around just a bit the word church was derived from a pagan goddess. The irony astounds me, was perchance the pagan god of irony named congregation? If Church is pagan then is Harry Potter a christian?

431 posted on 11/27/2001 8:31:49 AM PST by Outlaw76
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To: JenB
I'm serious. Have you read 'Farenheit 451'? None of those people had read the books they were burning, either. It's a liberal tactic to attack without knowledge of your subject.

Have you read the Bible? You might want to add it to your reading list..before they are taken away

432 posted on 11/27/2001 8:32:03 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: TomB
The American Library Association says there have been attempts in at least 13 states to ban the book from schools and public libraries.

How many of those schools have Bibles in them..seems you a selected interest in book banning...

433 posted on 11/27/2001 8:37:17 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: TomB
Interesting it is mostly..Catholics that have no problem with witchcraft..
434 posted on 11/27/2001 8:38:51 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: usconservative
It doesn't take Divinity School to realize that a good Christian should not be threatened by fairy tales. If your beliefs are threatened by a little fairy tale, than they were never that strong to begin with. I don't think I need to join a seminary to tell you that.
435 posted on 11/27/2001 8:43:11 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Faith_j
I'm not interested in whether or not I've fallen short of the glory of God, that's for Him to decide if He exists. Me, I'm just tooling around on this rock trying to leave it and the people around me better than I found them.

You're missing the reason we point to people's great deeds, because they are the crux of the question. I don't know which of the Christian sects you belong to but for the sake of this discussion let's assume/pretend it's anything but Catholic, and that like many non-Catholic Christian's you think the Catholic Church has lost it's way and can no longer truly be considered a Christian church representing the teachings of Jesus and His Holy Father. So, if all that is true, if being baptised and confirmed into Catholicism is not the path to salvation, and if the goodly deeds you do while in the mortal coil only have meaning if you have followed the proper path to salvation, then Mother Theresa, who was easily the single most charitable kind and loving person ever to walk the face of the earth (got a little wierd in her last few years, happens when you get really old) is burning in ever lasting hell because she bent knee to the wrong version of God.

And if you think that's how things should work you've got problems. And if God make things work that way He can count me out for the duration because I'd rather burn in hell with Mother Theresa than bend knee to a callous uncaring diety with an attitude problem even once. To me hell on earth is hypocrisy, and if there really is a God and he really has made things such that the most important deed is where you bend knee (which is, quite frankly, one of the least significant deeds you can perform during your day) I cannot in clean conscience say "this God is omnibenevolent and should be worshipped and His blessings should be sought".

To me it's no simple accident that the majority of the religions that have ever existed (notice I said majority, there are exceptions, as there are exceptions to everything) have basically the same moral system. They push for honor of our word, respect to our betters, don't murder, don't steal, help the less fortunate. To me if there is a God this was quite deliberate, He seeded this planet with the same message all over the place (remember, until very recently where you were born was where you would die and it was very unlikely you would ever be exposed to a different culture) because He wanted us to get the message and follow the message and He wouldn't care if you bend knee or what name of His you bend knee too. Because the ultimate form of bending the knee is to live by the message.

At least, that's the only version of God I would ever be able to respect, much less worship.

436 posted on 11/27/2001 8:43:18 AM PST by discostu
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To: RnMomof7
On 9/11 people kept saying God couldn't have caused this because we are a "Christian " nation. No ,we are in a post Christian era now. We have given God our answer to 9/11...Harry Potter

On 9/11 people said allot of crazy things, oddly on 11/27 people still do. Per that quote some fools said God 'Couldn't'. Must be nice to be able to judge what God can and cant do, then decide why.

I for one do not think it particularly wise to judge God or how he views our actions. If the supposition that it(9/11) was a question looking for a reply maybe the answer he see's is how quickly his name is taken in vain.

437 posted on 11/27/2001 8:43:19 AM PST by Outlaw76
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To: TomB
book banning

Are you concerned about this..or only books on witchcraft that will expand your child mind?

438 posted on 11/27/2001 8:47:00 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
How many of those schools have Bibles in them..seems you a selected interest in book banning...

The people on this thread taking you to task for not reading posts are right, you don't, otherwise you would have seen that I posted that in response to a question about whether or not people wanted to ban HP. The question had nothing to do with the Bible.

Interesting it is mostly..Catholics that have no problem with witchcraft..

So who do you hate more, witches or Catholics?

439 posted on 11/27/2001 8:48:02 AM PST by TomB
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To: RnMomof7
Who has said that anyone was going to hell for reading Potter?

You.

Born again believers will understand that it is not good or right or in the will of God for them to give place to this in their lives.......so they will dismiss the book..and the movie for what it is.

In other words, you're saying that, I cannot really be a "born again believer" because I've read Harry Potter and allow my children to read/see Harry Potter and have not dismissed the book.

Harry Potter is not a threat to my faith, or that of my family.

440 posted on 11/27/2001 8:54:35 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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