Prayers to Allah last night at the White House

(AgapePress) | November 20, 2001

[tessalu]

Allah is the god that runs the big brothel in paradise, where men can fornicate forever. Allah says that the worst sin is polytheism, or believing in Jesus Christ, as the Son of God. That means that believing in Jesus is worse than murder, and that is why we see so much murder by the Islamic terrorists. Any crime is okay if you believe that you are advancing the call of allah. Muhammed teaches that Jesus will return to earth, but that he never died, and when he comes back, he will follow Muhammed, live 40 years and then die.

So I say to you, if allah be your god, then serve him, and if Jehovah of the Bible be God, then serve him. No man can serve 2 masters. The God of the bible has always hated sin, since the beginning, and he is not of the character of allah. Check it out for yourself.

[El Gato]

Many of these same folks critising Bush over this issue also will not participate in any ecumenical or non denomiational function, even with other Christian denominations. That way lies Balkanization.

[El Gato]

Allah says that the worst sin is polytheism, or believing in Jesus Christ, as the Son of God

Sorry, polythesim is believing in more than one god, like the Romans, Norse, or modern Hindus, not in one God with 3 aspects, i.e. the Holy Trinity.

[El Gato]

All this sounds very much like what I was just reading over on the Jihad page. Those folks are critizing the Muslims who took part in this affair with Bush. Aren't you happy to be in agreement with such illustrious folks?

[Gal.5:1]

The Lord (God) has revealed Himself through His Word, and through Jesus Christ. He has many names and titles, but Allah is NOT one of them. Allah may be an Arabic word for 'god', but it is also the name of the arabic deity "the moon god". They are not the same.

[cva66snipe]

That's it in Biblical names of GOD the given name describes his character. Searches of Judeo/Christian names given him will not find Allah. If it is not the GOD of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, with the recongition of Abraham & Jacob being the Father of GOD's chosen people "Israel" it is not GOD.

[chuckles]

Per#15...The biggest problem with the muslims is they believe Ishmael is the son that God promised to Abraham. Ishmael was the contrivance of Sarah to fullfil the promise of God without God. One way to look at him is a symbol for the law and being a slave to it. It was a legal trick to use your slave to bear a child for inheritance purposes. Then God messed everything up by keeping His promise and giving Sarah a love child. He showed His grace on them and kept His promise as he always does. Now Abraham has a problem because he loves Issac, but Ishmael is the first born(who gets everything by the law). Sarah fixes the problem by throwing Haggar and Ishmael out in the desert. God promised Abraham that he would father a nation from his own loins and it turns out he fathered two. They have been fighting ever since over what they believe is their rightfull inheritance. I choose grace and love over slavery and law. Jesus was sent through the line of Issac as promised by God. It always pays to believe God and wait upon the Lord. When we get involved we always muck up the works. The Torah and the Quoran are basicly the same other than the Ishmael-Issac thing and they don't belive Jesus was the Son of God.They both have Adam and Eve, Noah and the Flood, and most other early stories are similar up till Ishmael. They believe Jesus was just a Prophet and the fact that He rose from the dead was a trick with poisons and antedote's. They admit Jesus was seen after He was crucified.

[chuckles]

Now Bush needs to return the favor by praying to Jesus in a Mosque. I wonder how he would be recieved?

[Djarum]

Interesting, thanks!

[richardthelionheart]

What about the Santerias? Shouldnt we slaughter chickens in the white house. This would be in response to the supreme court hearing on the case. Shouldnt we show sympathy that the regulation outlawing the sacrifice of chickens not for food purposes wasnt an attack on their religion but just a war to save more chickens for the rest of society to eat. Poor Santerias they attack chickens instead of innocent Americans! If they only chose the latter they'd be greeted with love by our media and a reception with the Prez at the White House.

[Gal.5:1]

agreed. Very well said. I was just looking at the names of God in Genesis and Exodus.

Blessed be the Name of the Lord. Holy is His Name.

[CreekerFreeper]

Well, because Islam is not the true religion, but methinks that you are setting up for a flaming incident from members of this Dboard with questions like this one.

[joathome]

Did Bush actually bow down and pray to Allah or did he simply allow these citizens ? of the U.S. to pray in the White House?

[Stand Watch Listen]

FYI...related article

F. Graham: My View of Islam-Christian countries respect freedom of worship.
Most Muslim ones don't
Source: Wall Street Journal; Published: December 9, 2001
Author: FRANKLIN GRAHAM

[CreekerFreeper]

No Allah in the Bible. Christianity derives many of its tenants, including the 10 Commandments, from the Old Testament teachings of the Jews. That's why we have Judeo-Christianity. I don't see where Islam is included.

NO ALLAH HERE BOYS. He's a conjoction of the mind of a nomad freak called Mohammed, who became the voice for a society of envious nomads who wanted to lash out against their Semite cousins the Jews and the Christians.

Islam wasn't created until, what, around 600 A.D.? So, let's get real people. There's nothing similar, and nothing peaceful, about the KORAN--it's hateful and spiteful, and calls for violence instead of peaceful conversion to its faith and tenants. I don't see The New Testament calling for the death of those who don't convert to it, like the KORAN. We are given FREEWILL to accept or reject Christ and the plan of salvation. Likeise, if you fall away from God, then that same FREEWILL is exercised and we fall from the GRACE OF GOD and will suffer damnation in HELL.

The KORAN would simply tell you to convert, force you to stay converted and allow some freaks, like bin Laden and Mullah Mohammed Omar to kill you for disagreeing and drifting from THEIR PLAN OF SALVATION.

In short, Islam is loser religion.

[TonyTheTigger]

chuckles writes:

Now Bush needs to return the favor by praying to Jesus in a Mosque. I wonder how he would be recieved?

Tony writes: LOL GOOD POINT. I THINK WE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS ALSO

[SC DOC]

Unfortunately you can't have it both ways. If you make the argument that prayer should be allowed in schools and public buildings, then you have to be willing to allow for prayer that may be diametrically opposed to your own faith. I doubt if the prayer was led by Bush himself, but would not condemn it any more than a rabbi at an official White House function offering a prayer in celebration of a Jewish Holy day.

Perhaps the Founding Fathers were right in establishing separation of Church and State to avoid many of the arguments listed here.