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Irish Student, (A Green Party Member), Requests Help With Essay
Irish Abroad ^ | 12/10/01 | Sibelius

Posted on 12/10/2001 5:46:17 PM PST by jla

Hi, sorry I haven`t been here in ages, but been very busy. Green Party Leader Sargent met the President of my University tonight.
I`m doing an essay on American democracy and I have to get it in for next Tues. I`ve read nearly a whole book with the title `Democracy` and am dipping in to `Democracy in America` by Alexis de Toqueville. I have to come up with a title for the essay and I`m along the lines of `Democracy in America: the two-party system` or maybe something on gridlock. I asked my brother`s girlfriend, who is from where the Constitution was signed in 1787, if she had any ideas, but she didn`t really have a clue. Any suggestions?


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Miz Sibelius is a student in Dublin, Ireland & a strong advocate of Green policies.
And she doesn't much cotton to capitalism or American ideals either.
1 posted on 12/10/2001 5:46:18 PM PST by jla
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And she doesn't much cotton to capitalism or American ideals either.

Then how about, "The Best Part of Ireland Moved to America in the Early 20th Century"?

2 posted on 12/10/2001 5:53:20 PM PST by randog
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America is a republic
3 posted on 12/10/2001 5:55:56 PM PST by Coolidge
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First things first; America is a Republic, not a democracy. Get that point correct and most of the rest follows easily.
4 posted on 12/10/2001 5:56:09 PM PST by NetValue
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Then why would she seek advice from a idealistic capitalist Americans? silly post.
5 posted on 12/10/2001 5:58:59 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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"And she doesn't much cotton to capitalism or American ideals either."

Then why is she asking for help from members of this forum?
It's obvious she is not familiar with the American ideals representd here. Either that or she hasn't bothered to read Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People".

6 posted on 12/10/2001 6:01:08 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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"I have to come up with a title for the essay "

GREEN PARTY CAN KISS MY ROYAL IRISH ASS!

7 posted on 12/10/2001 6:01:57 PM PST by Rebelbase
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"America: Potato's and Whiskey for All"
8 posted on 12/10/2001 6:02:03 PM PST by yooper
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I have to come up with a title for the essay

How about "America Rules: Grovel at our feet"

Or how about: "USA No.1, USA No. 1, USA No. 1" Just trying to help.

9 posted on 12/10/2001 6:03:31 PM PST by Tribune7
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I asked my brother`s girlfriend, who is from where the Constitution was signed in 1787, if she had any ideas, but she didn`t really have a clue.

Look your brother's girlfriend in the eye and say: "Iggles rule, Iggles rule, Iggles rule."

She'll know what you're talking about.

10 posted on 12/10/2001 6:05:49 PM PST by Tribune7
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Gee whiz, fella', everybody knows that the Greens, the SA and the SS and the Nazis all share in a common ideological urge initiated in the Nordic countries in the late 1800s/early 1900s.

I suggest the student take a look at that foundation under her political beliefs and just write about how embarrassed she is by it, or proud of it, or how she's just going to die if we don't stop talking nasty about the European Green movement.

At the moment, lots of folks who understand the relationships would probably agree with the contention that not enough of them were shot in the 1940s.

11 posted on 12/10/2001 6:08:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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Miz Sibelius is a student in Dublin, Ireland & a strong advocate of Green policies. And she doesn't much cotton to capitalism or American ideals either.

Try this:

If it wasn't for the United States, the UK wouldn't have cared wheter the U.S. entered WWI. And thus the Brits could have and would have crushed the 1916 rebellion like Ghengis Khan, and turned the entire Island into a de-populated cattle ranch.

You're welcome.

12 posted on 12/10/2001 6:13:49 PM PST by Castlebar
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Constitution was signed in 1787,

The Constitution was written in 1787. It was never "signed." It was ratified by the required 11 state legislatures in 1788 (9 were required) and took effect March 4, 1789.

North Carolina ratified it Nov. 21 1789 and Rhode Island, May 29, 1790 by a 34-32 vote.

Vermont ratified it in a convention Jan. 10, 1791 and was admitted as the 14th state on March 4, 1791.

This info should actually be helpful to you.

USA No. 1 USA No. 1 USA No. 1

13 posted on 12/10/2001 6:14:10 PM PST by Tribune7
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Green Party? Pogh mahone!
14 posted on 12/10/2001 6:15:31 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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Try this:

"We saved your ass during WWII, but we will not do your homework for you , you lazy Scottish twit"

15 posted on 12/10/2001 6:16:12 PM PST by DainBramage
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Firstly, as everyone else mentioned, America is a republic, not a democracy. That is vitally important. In a democracy, the majority rule, and, to quote an editorial I read once, "In a democracy, 51% of the people can vote to atomic wedgie the other 49%." In a republic, the majority only choose those who rule, and laws are ideally made on the basis of reason and natural rights.

I asked my brother`s girlfriend, who is from where the Constitution was signed in 1787, if she had any ideas, but she didn`t really have a clue.

The city where the Constitution was written was Philadelphia. There are over a million people there. Saying they know more than others about the Constitution is like saying that the average Londoner is an expert on the Glorious Revolution. I wager the vast majority of Philadelphians don't know the Constitution from the Declaration from the Petition of Right from the English Bill of Rights from the Two Treatises of Government from the Spirit of Laws from the Magna Carta.

In fact, I suggest you write a paper on the British influences of the American republic using those very documents. Also, Churchill had some nice things to say in The Great Republic. He offered that the Constitution was not necessarily framed on the ideals of the Enlightenment, but on British history, law, and political ideology. He was right. It is not a coincidence that the greatest republic in the history of the world was founded by Englishmen.

Of course, the Green would like none of this since the very idea of limiting government, the entity that makes the air and the grass and the food and the water and the sunshine, is reprehensible to socialists. If she wants to write a decent paper on America, she has to realize that government isn't always good.

16 posted on 12/10/2001 6:23:16 PM PST by Heisenburger
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and she dosn't much cotton to capitalism or American ideals either

Of course when her releatives in America send her back money from their jobs in construction, she don't much cotton to sending it back either. Disgust with the American capitalist system often seems to be a more symbolic than practical stance with the Irish libs anyway. These Greens make me ashamed of my heritage.

17 posted on 12/10/2001 6:23:35 PM PST by antienvironmentalist
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Oh, and we saved five million of them from the potato famine in 1849 and gave them a place to live, in spite of their annoying tendency to run for office in Massachusetts.
18 posted on 12/10/2001 6:24:40 PM PST by denydenydeny
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I asked my brother`s girlfriend, who is from where the Constitution was signed in 1787, if she had any ideas, but she didn`t really have a clue.

Who is from where...what? Is English this person's first language? That doesn't make any sense. And this person goes to college?
19 posted on 12/10/2001 6:27:34 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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I asked my brother`s girlfriend, who is from where the Constitution was signed in 1787, if she had any ideas, but she didn`t really have a clue.

Who is from where...what? Is English this person's first language? That doesn't make any sense. And this person goes to college?
20 posted on 12/10/2001 6:27:57 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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