Posted on 12/30/2001 1:25:13 AM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
Growing your own marijuana is not interstate commerce by any stretch of the imagination.
Comparing public-nose-picking to the most vicious and degrading of pornography does not dig you out of the public relations pit most libertarian ideologues find themselves in, bud. You try so well to carry their water for them, and yet you continue to eschew their label. Good try.
I carry my own water. As you carry your own. I have seen dozens of post from you that are along the statist line and I have never accused you of carrying water for the statist. So what pornography do you want to outlaw, soft stuff like Playboy magazine or the S&M stuff or both? Either way you want it the person can chose to not engage in looking at pornography just as a person can chose not to look at you picking your nose. Do you claim that the government should be able to initiate force against a person that has not initiated force against another person?
Most of it gets sold.
---- Yep, there are a lot of constitutional violations in the lawbooks.
Thats why free republic is here, - to discuss them, & work to correct them, just as JR was quoted as saying above.
Why are you here? -- 413 posted by tpaine
To debate many ideas and point out the difference between good and evil regarding illegal drug use on these kinds of threads. But I am hardly a one issue person. - A Ca guy -
Yep, and you also aren't an honest person, -- here you are, at #437, -- just a few minutes after proclaiming your good 'debate' intentions, -- swapping slurs about libertarans with a full of hate creep like roscoe.
You have no honor.
455 posted by tpaine
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My comments stand. - Unrefuted.
That's not the way it works. When it leaves the grower's hands, he doesn't know where it will wind up. And once a dealer is apprehended, there generally isn't any reasonable way to determine where his illicit drugs originated, or what paths the drugs followed getting there.
There are also a few inside the state producers as well. From what I read D-Dog.
A major, major, I repeat major problem is that congress writes so many unconstitutional laws and it takes ten times as long to get the court to rule on just one of them. That's one way the government grew into the leviathan that it is. All you've suggested is more of the same. You're the politicians and bureaucrats friend.
And what, pray tell, have the Libertarians and their allies brought to the table, other than hot air?
They can.
That's not the way it works. When it leaves the grower's hands, he doesn't know where it will wind up. And once a dealer is apprehended, there generally isn't any reasonable way to determine where his illicit drugs originated, or what paths the drugs followed getting there.
The original issue was growing pot on one person's property and the pot never left the property. Obvious that the two or three plants were for personal consumption. Do you claim that that falls under the interstate commerce clause?
Steve Kubby.
Zon: : All you've suggested is more of the same. You're the politicians and bureaucrats friend.
Sheesh. Apparently you and your Libertarian buddies are not really serious in your concerns or outrages then. Please take my word for it: The laws will not be overturned just because someone happens to read tpaine's smarmy comments here on FreeRepublic.
Doesn't need to be. You came up with a bad example. Wanna try again?
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