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Christmas issue (Christmas book banned in Ithaca)
Ithaca Journal ^ | Friday, January 4, 2002 | Clayton Moore

Posted on 01/04/2002 4:03:51 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

"All the businesses close, the schools close and a whole bunch of other things are closed yet our school pretends that Christmas doesn't even exist."
Douglas Moore, 3rd grade, Cayuga Heights Elementary School

My son took a simple book about Christmas to school. He bought the book with his own money at the Friends Of The Library sale. It was a short story about Santa Claus and a magic mirror. The book also contained a record that had a few Christmas songs on it. He intended to share the book and record with his classmates but he was not allowed to do so because the subject of the book and the record was Christmas.

It appears that the school is so intent on avoiding controversy that they have chosen to maintain an environment at the school which denies that Christmas exists. My son wants to know why there is such a drastic difference between the school and the rest of his world. He believes all of the kids in his school live in the same world he does.

This is very hard on him. He wants to know why things are this way in the school and who are the adults behind it. After all, the White House, Ithaca Commons, the malls, the grocery stores, TV and the radio all have gotten into the Christmas spirit. We doubt very much that those people objecting to Christmas are able to avoid going to all of these places in order to keep from being exposed to Christmas and/or controversy.

My son is having a hard time with this because he wants to live according to the way he is being taught in the school. He believes he should accept all people the way they are. He knows he should accept diversity and be tolerant of those whose beliefs differ from his. He feels the school's actions towards Christmas are completely the opposite of the values being taught there.

His feeling is that it would be better for everyone if Christmas was brought back into the school. He feels it would be better to teach the students about the beliefs and traditions of those who don't celebrate Christmas as well. Telling children that Christmas is worse than PG-13 is wrong. Pulling this cruel hoax on children is something that should not be allowed to continue.

Perhaps there are times when adults should listen to children rather than take such advantage of their powerless position in the world.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: academialist; christmas; ithacais; thecityofevil
As loyal readers of Free Republic already know, Ithaca grades its students in school on "sensitivity to other cultures," etc.

Apparently, when it comes to Christianity they cannot practice what they preach.

No surpise there, as Ithaca is the City of Evil.

1 posted on 01/04/2002 4:03:51 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
In Ithaca the PC Empire Strikes Back!
2 posted on 01/04/2002 4:06:01 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: 17th Miss Regt;governsleastgovernsbest;LibKill;Clemenza;NativeNewYorker;MissMarple
City of Evil bump
3 posted on 01/04/2002 4:07:00 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I go to church with several folks who had moved here (Raleigh, NC) from Ithaca. They ALL tell me that Ithaca is a "spiritual black-hole". I believe it.
4 posted on 01/04/2002 4:16:34 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Multiculturism means acceptance of other cultures, not your own.
5 posted on 01/04/2002 4:38:21 AM PST by Jack Wilson
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I still have books from "Friends of the Library" sales in the 1970s. Sigh.
6 posted on 01/04/2002 4:38:48 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The author of the letter isn't this Clayton Moore, is he?
7 posted on 01/04/2002 4:43:41 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: NativeNewYorker
No, but I was thinking the same thing.

I think the original Lone Ranger, Clayton Moore had to be a conservative. He was always image conscious, knowing that the kids were looking for a good example from him and he always did his best to set one.

8 posted on 01/04/2002 4:55:17 AM PST by capt. norm
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Ithaca is the City of Evil.

You should distinguish more carefully between evil and stupidity. You have to be intelligent to be evil.

9 posted on 01/04/2002 4:58:45 AM PST by Cincinatus
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I've been in Ithaca a couple times and am amazed that what seems like a picturesque little upstate college town should turn out to be a haven for fascist zealots. There is no reason for these leftist gestapo types to trample on a child's Christmas except pure unadulterated evil.

At my daughter's primary school here in Ohio the parents were invited to a holiday party during which the children in two classes sang Christmas carols. These included all the standards referring to Christ as our saviour and the Son of G*d. Hannukah had already passed, but they also threw in the dredel song along with something African to cover Kwanza. It was very nice and, as far as I could tell, no one there or elsewhere in the school or community had any objections to the song selections. I'm not going to name the district as I'm sure there are pinheads from the ACLU who lurk here, but the point is that there are remaining islands of sanity out there and I'm thankful to be living in one.

It remains a mystery to me how the plain phrase "free exercise of" is so unintelligible to socialists. There will have to come a time when the Constitution is enforced as it is written, or those who now ignore and lie about its meaning are forced to lay their true motives bare. A recurring historic theme of the last century was the rise and eventual destruction by free peoples of fascism in all its forms (Nazi, Communist, el al). The same struggle goes on, this time in our own towns and communities.

10 posted on 01/04/2002 5:28:01 AM PST by katana
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
city of evil bump
11 posted on 01/04/2002 5:57:19 AM PST by Red Jones
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To: katana
I'm sorry, but what would one expect from the hometown of an elitist, androgynous, cult-driven Ivy League school (Cornell) bereft of moral values or common sense?
12 posted on 01/04/2002 6:01:51 AM PST by gaspar
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Sounds like lawsuit time to me. With the right lawyer, that school district could end up financing the kid's college education.
13 posted on 01/04/2002 7:17:57 AM PST by ikanakattara
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To: gaspar
I'm sorry, but what would one expect from the hometown of an elitist, androgynous, cult-driven Ivy League school (Cornell) bereft of moral values or common sense?

HEY! I am proud to have graduated from Cornell, and I turned out OK!!

14 posted on 01/07/2002 6:02:47 AM PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: hillary's_fat_a**
Yes I'm sure you did, furthermore, there are many who have graduated from CU and are not leftists. However, over the years a vile, evil ooze, has seeped into the community. PC is the "new religion," in local schools, government, etc. I'm all for "Live and Let Live", but don't get in my face with your stuff. That's is what has happened here, in your face. Ithaca is the City of Evil.
15 posted on 01/07/2002 6:37:16 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
But don't you see, this book would have offended the Muslim students on their way to their special prayer chapels.
16 posted on 01/07/2002 6:54:56 AM PST by denydenydeny
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To: hillary's_fat_a**
HEY! I am proud to have graduated from Cornell, and I turned out OK!!

Hey, I knew you 'turned out OK' as soon as I read your screen name!   LOL

17 posted on 01/13/2002 5:54:26 AM PST by jigsaw
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To: ikanakattara; governsleastgovernsbest; LibKill; gaspar; bentfeather; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; ...
Sounds like lawsuit time to me. With the right lawyer, that school district could end up financing the kid's college education.

You could be right...

From Fox News and the Boston Globe:

A 7-year-old Massachusetts girl and her parents have sued their local school system for religious discrimination because they say a teacher told the girl she couldn't share a book about the birth of Jesus Christ with her class.
Laura Greska's First Amendment free speech rights were violated, said Vincent McCarthy, a lawyer for the American Center for Law and Justice, which is representing Laura and her parents, Jessie and Robert Greska.
Laura took a copy of The First Christmas to her second-grade class at Northwest Elementary School in December after her teacher told students to bring in a book about Christmas traditions. When Laura's teacher realized the book focused on the birth of Jesus Christ, she told the girl she couldn't share it because it was religious, McCarthy said.

A few lawsuits like this would probably go a long way to slowing down the decay in "the City of Evil" school system.

18 posted on 08/12/2002 7:10:33 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: hillary's_fat_a**
You and Ann Coulter
19 posted on 08/12/2002 7:14:35 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
An island of insanity surrounded by an ocean of common sense. I graduated from a (public) high school a mere 60 miles from Ithaca, and yet every year there was a traditional singing of the "Hallelujah" chorus from Handel's "Messiah", without so much as a peep of complaint that I was aware of. But somewhere in that 60 mile journey from there to Ithaca, you enter...the Twilight Zone....
20 posted on 08/12/2002 7:20:19 AM PDT by general_re
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To: gaspar
I'm sorry, but what would one expect from the hometown of an elitist, androgynous, cult-driven Ivy League school (Cornell) bereft of moral values or common sense?

"...Far above Cayuga's waters

There she stands...Cornell.

That smell is not Cayuga's waters

That smell is just CORNELL...!

21 posted on 08/12/2002 8:12:45 AM PDT by Don Corleone
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I just really don't know how you take it. And I live in L.A.

22 posted on 08/12/2002 9:14:55 AM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
He knows he should accept diversity and be tolerant of those whose beliefs differ from his. He feels the school's actions towards Christmas are completely the opposite of the values being taught there.

Even the young socialists in training are choking on the inconsistencies of socialism.

The answer of course is to totally defund public schooling.

God Save America (Please)

23 posted on 08/12/2002 10:08:04 AM PDT by John O
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
A few lawsuits like this would probably go a long way to slowing down the decay in "the City of Evil" school system.

City of Evil bump

Go parents, sue, sue, sue!

24 posted on 08/12/2002 10:19:43 AM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: John O
I think it is time for our young people to have their own "revolution" like the sixties. Let's get them to Question Authority.

That should scare the liberals as they are the authority kids see most often.

25 posted on 08/12/2002 10:27:30 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: bentfeather
It is not about diversity anymore. The public school is about submitting to pc conformity. They are teaching our children the "danger" of being unique. Think like us and you will be accepted and get good grades.
26 posted on 08/12/2002 11:35:04 AM PDT by Greeklawyer
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Demand that all the schools stay open during the christmas holidays and that all the teachers are in the classroom teaching an Christmas morning. All the students can stay home and celebrate the holiday.
27 posted on 08/12/2002 12:26:11 PM PDT by gunshy
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
It was a short story about Santa Claus and a magic mirror.

This is amazing!

It used to be they were trying to keep Christ out of Christmas. Now they are even trying to keep poor, ole fairy-tale Santa Claus out! So much for "diversity" from the Diversity Crowd. They are even banning the secular substitute for Christ, which is doubly stupid, if you ask me (but much less eternally lethal)! Pretty soon they'll have everybody mad at them, not just God - although He should be more than enough.

Liberals are really evil. One doesn't have to travel to Ithaca to see it, but it sure should make it clear for a 3rd grader who is trapped in a government school. No doubt he is a future FReeper!

28 posted on 08/12/2002 12:50:30 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: katana
"African to cover Kwanza."

Kwanzaa is a made up holiday. It was created in the 1960's by some guy. I forget his name. While I think it's fine that people celebrate it, I find it hilarious that school administrators and pols fall all over themselves to proclaim their love of Kwanzaa. Not many of the Black people I know celebrate it. They celebrate Christmas.

29 posted on 08/12/2002 1:02:04 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Greeklawyer
Think like us and you will be accepted and get good grades.

And if you don't "do as we say," you will be ostracized and ridiculed! Then the Common Council will have to vote on your ideas and rule you have committed a hate crime.

Yeah baby, it's just terrific living here in the "City of Evil."

30 posted on 08/12/2002 2:17:18 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: AppyPappy
You and Ann Coulter

LOL! Yes, but I'm about 9 years her senior!

Gee....I hear that Ann lurks on FR....Oh Ann, care to attend the September 28 homecoming game against Yale with a really cute conservative guy??

31 posted on 08/12/2002 8:08:41 PM PDT by hillary's_fat_a**
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