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Bullet riddled body of Israeli man found in car
Ananova ^ | Ananova

Posted on 01/15/2002 6:25:27 AM PST by consrv_at_IsraelForum_dot_com

The body of an Israeli man has been found in a bullet-riddled car in the West Bank.

Palestinian security officials say the body was found in Beit Sahour.

Initial reports say the man, who also carried a foreign passport, had been kidnapped by gunmen.

Earlier, the two largest Palestinian militant factions said they will stick to a truce with Israel despite their accusations that Israel assassinated a West Bank militia leader.

Supporters of Raed Karmi took revenge just hours after his death killing an Israeli soldier and wounding an officer who had left their armoured personnel carrier to question two Palestinians at a checkpoint.

Israel did not confirm or deny involvement in the killing of Karmi, 27, leader of the Al Aqsa Brigades in the West Bank town of Tulkarem.

Karmi had boasted of killing two Tel Aviv restaurant owners and was accused by Israel of having killed a total of nine Israelis. He survived an Israeli missile attack on his car in September.

Karmi's funeral procession wound through the streets of Tulkarem, with mourners carrying his body, wrapped in a Palestinian flag.

Militiamen shot in the air, and one shouted "settlers, beware."

The latest violence undermined US truce efforts, and it is not clear whether Washington mediator Anthony Zinni will return to the region later this week as planned.

Story filed: 14:52 Tuesday 15th January 2002


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To: massadvj
"...the Palestinians....are no more than animals..."

Is this really true? You said it, not me.

151 posted on 01/15/2002 10:48:06 AM PST by Magician
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To: tex-oma
I don't need to take a test I know who I am.

And how do Phil Reeves and Robert Fisk, the avowed anti-USA anti-West Leftist types you like so much fit in to your 'Conservative' agenda.

I ask you again. You stated you are a big fan of Robert Fisk.

Tell us how Fisk fits into you Conservative agenda. Tick tock tick tock.

154 posted on 01/15/2002 10:51:29 AM PST by veronica
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To: vrwc54
So far just another day of Palestinian restraint:

21:33 Jan-15-02 More Details of Lynching Attack of Elderly Man
20:49 Jan-15-02 Terrorist Attack Victim in Moderate Condition
20:22 Jan-15-02 Fatah Claims Responsibility for Lynching Murder
20:05 Jan-15-02 One Fatality in Givat Ze’ev Terrorist Shooting Attack
20:03 Jan-15-02 Israelis Injured in Stone-Throwing Attack Against Passenger Bus in the Capital
19:30 Jan-15-02 Attempted Bomb Attack Near Emanuel
19:20 Jan-15-02 Search for Possible Infiltrators in Kibbutz Eyal
19:02 Jan-15-02 Senior Citizen Murdered By PA Residents While PA Cops Look On
18:41 Jan-15-02 Jammed Weapon Foils Terrorist Attack in the Shomron
16:30 Jan-15-02 Kiryat Shmona Residents Report on Shrapnel
05:09 Jan-15-02 More Shooting Attacks
GSS Nabs Terrorist Bomb Maker 00:41 Jan-15-02

00:41 Jan-15-02 Sharon: PA Has Not Abandoned Terror For A Single Day

Who thinks Sharon is wrong?

156 posted on 01/15/2002 10:52:26 AM PST by SJackson
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To: AshleyMontagu
He was raised a certain way.

I don't know that he did any damage. I do know that he is now doing much good.

Wonder if you feel the same way about Whittaker Chambers?

159 posted on 01/15/2002 10:55:14 AM PST by Sabramerican
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To: tex-oma
A guy got shot in Dallas yesterday. They found him in his car. Robbed, too.

I guess you are now part of Skunkworks denial of terrorism gang. Congrats. You Islam Firsters will go very far to deny truth and cover for terrorists.

It seems like just yesterday you were denying that the PA tried to smuggle arms. Oh wait, it was just yesterday LOL...

160 posted on 01/15/2002 10:55:19 AM PST by veronica
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To: tex-oma
...Phil Reeves and Robert Fisk, the avowed anti-USA anti-West Leftist types..

Robert Fisk called Bush a 'second rate executioner'. Once again, how do Phil Reeves and Robert Fisk, the avowed anti-USA anti-West Leftist types fit into your Conservative agenda?

You also claimed Bush has (so-called) 'many neo-cons' in his cabinet.

Name them please.

163 posted on 01/15/2002 10:58:06 AM PST by veronica
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To: consrv_at_IsraelForum_dot_com
This report just out:
ARABS LYNCH ELDERLY JEWISH MAN
A 70-year-old Israeli man was lynched in Bethlehem today. His body was found with signs of severe and brutal violence in a soccer field in PLO-controlled Beit Sachur. The man also held American citizenship. PLO naval police, who man a nearby roadblock, were eyewitnesses to the lynch but did nothing.

The victim entered Bethlehem with an Arab acquaintance, who apparently reported the lynch to Israel security forces. Lieut.-Col Sharon Levy, commander of the Bethlehem District Coordinating Office, told Israel Radio that when they received reports of an Israeli in distress, they checked with the PLO police who denied that any such incident was taking place. Levy indicated that he relied upon the PLO report and subsequently "lost connection with the unfolding incident." When he discovered that they had lied to him, it was too late. Levy said, "We have strong complaints against the Palestinians that the police there did not protect the man, did not report the incident to us, and then lied about it."

Officers who saw the body are saying that the victim was badly beaten and shot many times. Not all of the details have become clear; an investigation is underway. For more news as it unfolds, see the Latest News section on Israel National News.

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Perhaps some of the pro palestinian posters here might want to visit Bethlehem, once it was a tourist trap, but now that it has been given to the Palestinians for peace, tourist TRAP has a whole new meaning.

164 posted on 01/15/2002 10:58:27 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: Sabramerican
He was raised a certain way.

LOL. Sabra goes bleeding heart.

167 posted on 01/15/2002 11:03:53 AM PST by AshleyMontagu
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To: AshleyMontagu
????????????????????
170 posted on 01/15/2002 11:05:48 AM PST by Sabramerican
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To: tex-oma
Posted by tex-oma...

'Yes, Fisk is an admirable journalist with a long record of award winning reportage on Middle Eastern affairs. I admire him.'

by Robert Fisk - We Are The Criminals Now

By we he means President Bush, the US, the UK, the West.

171 posted on 01/15/2002 11:06:59 AM PST by veronica
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To: tex-oma
Who are the many 'neo-cons' in Bush's cabinet?
173 posted on 01/15/2002 11:08:07 AM PST by veronica
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To: tex-oma;veronica
Good thing you can't go back and alter this thread, much as you'd no doubt love to.

She'd no doubt like to get rid of the part where she so coyly acted ignorant about her friend David Horowitz's past as a long-time Communist and Black Panther even though he has admitted it many times, including writing a whole book about it. LOL

175 posted on 01/15/2002 11:09:38 AM PST by AshleyMontagu
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To: tex-oma
Here ya' go - and on an Islam First site - just your speed LOL...

Robert Fisk: We Are the War Criminals Now

177 posted on 01/15/2002 11:10:49 AM PST by veronica
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To: tex-oma
It's been over an hour since you claimed Bush's cabinet had 'lots' of 'neo-cons' in it.

How long does it take you to back up your claims? (-:

178 posted on 01/15/2002 11:12:18 AM PST by veronica
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To: AshleyMontagu
I never said David was not a former Leftie.

I said he did not spend 'half his life trying to undermine the US government' a truly dopey thing to say.

179 posted on 01/15/2002 11:13:57 AM PST by veronica
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To: SJackson
Notice the Fatah, which is Arafat's faction of the Palestinians, has been bolder in claiming responsibility for these terrorist acts. Is there any more reason to give Arafat the time of day?
180 posted on 01/15/2002 11:15:31 AM PST by Lent
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To: Lent
Notice the Fatah, which is Arafat's faction of the Palestinians, has been bolder in claiming responsibility for these terrorist acts. Is there any more reason to give Arafat the time of day?

As vocal as they've been recently, I won't be them surprised to see them added to our terrorist list, whether it disses Arafat or not.

182 posted on 01/15/2002 11:17:37 AM PST by SJackson
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To: tex-oma
Okay.

So you do not deny you are a BIG fan of Robert Fisk, the USA-Bush smearing British Leftist, and you cannot name the many neo-cons in Bush's cabinet. That's cool. We knew it anyway. Snicker.

184 posted on 01/15/2002 11:20:50 AM PST by veronica
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To: tex-oma
Mubarak dubious on Karine A...

AND you believe Egypt/Mubarak over our own government's version, which is on the same page as Israel.

Like I said, you are an Islam Firster. (-:

185 posted on 01/15/2002 11:23:02 AM PST by veronica
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To: tex-oma
Robert Fisk writes::

.....Winston Churchill took the Bush view of his enemies. In 1945, he preferred the straightforward execution of the Nazi leadership. Yet despite the fact that Hitler's monsters were responsible for at least 50 million deaths - 10,000 times greater than the victims of 11 September - the Nazi murderers were given a trial at Nuremberg because US President Truman made a remarkable decision. "Undiscriminating executions or punishments," he said, "without definite findings of guilt fairly arrived at, would not fit easily on the American conscience or be remembered by our children with pride."

No one should be surprised that Mr Bush - a small-time Texas Governor-Executioner - should fail to understand the morality of a statesman in the Whitehouse.

What is so shocking is that the Blairs, Schröders, Chiracs and all the television boys should have remained so gutlessly silent in the face of the Afghan executions and East European-style legislation sanctified since 11 September.'

188 posted on 01/15/2002 11:28:35 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
I never said David was not a former Leftie

"Former Leftie". Sounds pretty innocuous. Kind of 'cute' even. However, I'll say "former Communist and Black Panther". More accurate.

189 posted on 01/15/2002 11:30:35 AM PST by AshleyMontagu
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To: AshleyMontagu
How about David Horowitz, current Conservative icon, mover and shaker, and advice-giver to Karl Rove? That would be more appropriate.
190 posted on 01/15/2002 11:32:58 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
I said he did not spend 'half his life trying to undermine the US government' a truly dopey thing to say.

And a much dopier thing to do. What were the Communists and Black Panthers doing in the '60s and '70s? Were they just members of harmless social clubs who supported the United States government? Or were they revolutionaries doing everything they could to destroy America? You are free to admire and even be friends with such a man as Horowitz. BTW, did you meet him back in the good ole revolutionary days? Or just recently?

192 posted on 01/15/2002 11:39:02 AM PST by AshleyMontagu
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To: AshleyMontagu
This note is also to tex-osama & Billybob the inbred

Hey, can you believe you went through a whole thread rooting the murder of a 70 year old American, and were so busy you missed the drive by shooting of a lady! Crap, the Palestinians are killing old men and ladies faster than you can type. Such hero's you have!

But, perhaps you are so busy trying to excuse the unexcusable you missed these other fine examples of "Peace" my Arab neighbors have given tonight:

Arabs detonated a roadside bomb against a public Egged bus traveling near Ganim and Kadim this morning. There were no injuries. The blast damaged the bus, and the passengers were transferred to a bus belonging to the Shomron regional council.

AWWWW... missed killing a whole bus load of people heading to work in the morning...

Three Arabs were apprehended near Jerusalem's Old City with ready-to-throw firebombs. The Arabs told their interrogators that they were preparing to use them against Israeli targets.

OH, SHUCKS! We could have watched Jews die dancing in the flames of Molotov cocktails! Perhaps to protect the tourists we should require all Jews to wear yellow stars so the Arabs don't torch some innocent non-Jew...

An alert guard at Kedumim, east of Ra'anana, fired his weapon and chased away an Arab who tried to perpetrate an attack. The Arab's weapon jammed, and he fled the scene.

OH, BUMMER, don't you just hate when that happens. The mean Jews should give all new guns to the Arabs cause they don't clean and oil the ones they got from Clinton...

Arabs hurled hand grenades at an IDF patrol near Rafiah, along the Egyptian border. The soldiers returned fire; no injuries were sustained by the IDF

MAN! Can't even hit the Jews with Hand grenades. Perhaps we should give the Peaceful Islamic’s claymores. They are much bigger, and better for killing some other neighboring countries border guards guarding another countries border.

force. Shots were directed at an IDF position in P'sagot, north of Jerusalem.

SHUCKS, another peace offering misses... Darn the luck.

An explosive device was discovered on a road near Emanuel, east of Herziliya. IDF sappers dismantled the bomb.

AWWWWW, a perfectly good mine goes to waste. Could have bagged a nice fat sedan full of school kids with that one...

Two shooting attacks were reported last night against soldiers on Mount Gerizim and south of Jerusalem in the Gush Etzion district. There were no injuries.

The brave Islamic army missed again. Shucks, at this point you would think the Arabs are idiots, or the Jews are the Chosen people...

[/sarcasm]

MY point is this. You are the biggest bunch of pro terrorist scumbags I have ever had the displeasure to meet. Hope you get neighbors like this someday. I am pretty sick of hearing you rant and cover over constant terrorism. You can't explain away the murders as fast as your heros are trying to make them. One cluster bomb in the center of the crowd swearing revenge for the IDIOT that blew his own ass up trying to deliver another car bomb and there would be THOUSANDS DEAD! It is pretty obvious that the IDF is not trying to kill "innocents" like the PA is. You still root for the Palestinians though. That means you are NOT innocent. The blood of the American Citizen killed today and the lady in the car is on YOUR hands. As you continue to aid and abet the sworn enemies of America, ask yourself this. Why are you here? Go to Bethlehem. Oh wait, they would gut and stomp you there if you were an American. On second thought...

194 posted on 01/15/2002 11:43:31 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: tex-oma
Got any more good quotes?

I am sure your hero Fisk will be sliming America and President Bush again very soon and you can post all his anti-American 'bon mots'.

Just don't claim to be a Conservative, a Republican, or anything like that when you wear poms-poms and rah-rah the America haters like Fisk.

People are allowed to hate America, but they should own up to it when they do. At least Fisk does.

195 posted on 01/15/2002 11:45:51 AM PST by veronica
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To: American in Israel
Cute. BTW, you never answered a serious question I posed to you. How do Israeli Jews feel about their brothers and sisters in the United States who don't have the cajones to go to Israel to defend the homeland? Is there resentment? Since you're there, I would like your opinion on this. How do the ones who risk their lives feel about their keyboard warrior kinsmen?
196 posted on 01/15/2002 11:49:32 AM PST by AshleyMontagu
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To: American in Israel
Check out this charming Fisk-ism from tex's favorite journalist::

'But I'm not for Bush. I'm actively against the brutal, cynical, lying "war of civilisation" that he has begun so mendaciously in our name and which has now cost as many lives as the World Trade Centre mass murder.'

You see, according to Fisk Bush is an amoral, lying, second-string executioner from Texas. And America is the bad guy in all of this don't you know. Ever read such barfbag stuff?

197 posted on 01/15/2002 11:52:51 AM PST by veronica
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To: tex-oma
It is very rare to hear of an Israeli who murders an innocent Palestinian...

Read the words carefully for comprehension, and then run off and search your archives to find the last few times it occurred. I'll be here waiting for your evidence.

198 posted on 01/15/2002 11:54:15 AM PST by monkeyshine
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To: AshleyMontagu
Cute?! You are disgusting. Tell me, how does a person like you sleep at night after spending the day cheering the murders of a fellow American?
199 posted on 01/15/2002 11:55:17 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: tex-oma
A Fisk apologist. I had no doubt that you were an Arab Islamic apologist this is just another Intifada feather in your...well whatever it is you wear. Tell me now, since you rah, rah, Fisk who attacks Bush and the war on terrorism, when was the last time you burn't the American flag or is it the case you're out of your supply and you have to stock up in the coming weeks for more fodder for you Jihad loving self?
200 posted on 01/15/2002 11:55:22 AM PST by Lent
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