Former Enron Exec's Death Believed Suicide (Contains facts inconsistent with conspiracy theories)

Houston Chronicle ^ | January 26, 2002 | Eric Hanson and Mary Flood

[Nubbin]

Thanks sinkspur. I missed that bit of information.

[sinkspur]

Freeper 007 didn't do the research.

ONE insurance company covering suicide outside a two year window and charging high premiums (this insurance company also covers sky-diving and bull-riding) is indicative of.....well, nothing.

[ohmage]

Your explanation answered one of the two questions I had. Thanks for the Mercedes door lock seminar.

Say,uh, you wouldn't know where he was coming from at that hour, wouldja?

[Freeper 007]

The one you reference is some kind of "high risk" policy that has sky-high premiums.

What are you talking about? I didn't reference anything.

It is a standard exception to most life insurance policies. I know you love being the one to throw cold water on wild-assed theories, but you are setting yourself up to eat some crow on this one.

http://www.quality-ins.com/definitions.html

Scroll down to Suicide Clause

Suicide Clause - Most life insurance policies provide that if the insured commits suicide within a specified period, usually two years, after the issue date, the company's liability will be limited to a return of premiums paid.

I'm just trying to address a simple fact here. There is no reason for you to throw your attitude around.

[CWRWinger]

If you can't provide a substantive answer to my question, then don't do this Dephi thing.

Why should not the boss question an employees work? If a boss doesn't question, he's not going to get good results from the employee.

Besides, 'you get what you inspect'. You wouldn't buy a car just on the printed brochure and a salesman's word would you?

How much more serious and important is it to know what we are getting from those we elect and appoint to office. In this country it's our right to know and question.

BTW, I have this nice used car......... trust me.

[_Jim]

Just remember the powers that be are circling the wagons and he was a loose cannon in their eyes.

They have all been meeting together to strategize for months and feeling each other out to see who is in and who is out. It has been "we all hang together or we will all hang separately".

He was probably the one who they didn't trust to keep his mouth shut and develop early alzheimers.

Something you conspiracy theorists have to explain to me, since I'm more than just a little dense when it comes to 'spinning' this stuff that you closet Dems (yes, you closet-Dem) do -

Wouldn't it be easier for these other so-called 'guilty' Directors and Vice Presidenst and Presidents and Vice Chairmen and Chairmen to head offshore or overseas, esacpe the law and live like Kings on their millions?

Methinks youse guys are just slinging mud and putting no real thought into this.

Say - *why did* you come crawling out of the woodwork in the 21st of this month?

Doing a 'Find in Forum' on you only shows activity back that far ...

[razorback-bert]

I once managed to lock my keys in my running BMW, which BMW stated was impossible.

[_Jim]

Why should not the boss question an employees work?

There is a power higher than just that of the 'boss' - and that would be one's own professional ethics and desire and drive to seek and get at the truth.

That - and peer review.

The boss, after all, could be a complete idiot, whereas, in a peer review (before being subsequently published in a technical journal) can be an even tougher and more demanding ordeal.

[CWRWinger]

When it comes to government apologists, never could it be stated truer than 'the worm dieth not'.

I'm sure the FBI agents flaming children at Waco were really worried about peer pressure. Yeah sure. Try again. What's your point?

[_Jim]

What the hell was that diatribe? Wanna address the issue rather than just blabbering a bunch of crap all over the board?

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Ok then, lets just think about how much effort someone is going to put into it, to make it look like a suicide.
Why not just leave the door unlocked?
And I don't think it was being over-simplistic. It was a reasonable conclusion, seeing that I'm not part of the investigation and am not privy to every little detail of the case.

[Jhoffa_]

When you begin with the knowledge that the players involved have tens of millions to throw around.. then expect people to speculate.

I know it's not cut and dried to me just yet.. No Way.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

"Say,uh, you wouldn't know where he was coming from at that hour, wouldja? "

I could tell ya'. But then I'd hafta kill ya'.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Years ago when I worked in the Automotive Electronics Accessory biz, we had an axiom that we lived by:
"All things are possible, given liberal application of large amounts of cash."

[Sueann]

I read somewhere here on FR that the autopsy was initiated because although the police found a bullet exit wound, there was no sign of the bullet in the vehicle. Strange ...??

[maestro]

.............'Baxter, 43, was discovered about 2:20 a.m.'.............

Wow!!!......................................................... 2:20 A.M.,...............right in the middle of RUSH HOUR!!

Parking in the 'turn' lane at that hour could be very dangerous with all that traffic flow!!!

[Woodkirk]

Your lack of discernment is showing --

[Sueann]

Suicide doesn't disqualify from insurance - it only disqualifies a ruling of "accidental death" (such as murder), which gives the beneficiary double the policy amount.

[eazdzit]

It is settled. You and Stinky both working this thread from the suicide angle, is like broadcasting. It must have been murder.

By the way, if it looks like it had to be suicide to you and it looks like it may have been murder to me. Who is jumping to conclusions?

[Jhoffa_]

Suicide doesn't disqualify from insurance..

Suicide clauses are standard practice..

I never heard of anyone who paid a small premium and who's beneficiaries were guaranteed a fortune without the stipulation that they couldn't kill themselves being part of the contract.