They Will Deport Themselves

February 16th, 2002 | Sabertooth

[Sabertooth]

If there were national referendums, this would win in a landslide.

[Sabertooth]

(((ping))))

[dennisw]

Start first with the 300,000 that have been ordered deported but the lamers at INS haven't many clues where they are.

[Helix]

BUMP. Did you write this?

[Helix]

All they have to do is look at the few remaining industrial employers in America. I can even give them a couple of places to start. One man supposedly changed his Social Security number 4 times while working for Anvil Knitwear in Swannanoa (outside Asheville) NC. Sounds suspicious to me. Another one which used to employ many immigrants is Collins and Aikman in Old Fort, NC. I can't prove they have hired illegal immigrants. However, businesses which hire a large number of immigrants would seem to be logical places to look.

[Sabertooth]

Start first with the 300,000 that have been ordered deported but the lamers at INS haven't many clues where they are.

What use is the War on Terror if we Surrender on Soveriegnty?

[ijcr]

Rather silly arguement with respect to asset forfiture by illegals, the assets that need to be forfeited are those of our fellow Americans who HIRE illegals.

Remove the cause of illegal immigration by destroying the culture of hiring illegals and they will export themselves.

[RnMomof7]

I have a family member border patrol agent

There are new rules in So. Cal...they may not go "looking " for the illegals..they sit and "wait " at check points for the illegals to come to them..they also can not persue more than a mile (I believe that is the distance ..if they happen to see them). Our " border patrol " is a joke..it is fashioned as an open border policy by this administration .(We are simply paying salaries for agents that have their hands tied behind their backs..)It is a game .

[Billy_bob_bob]

Good point. How about we seize the assets of BOTH the employers and the illegals? I can't think of anything else that would do as much to reduce illegal immigration.

[Sabertooth]

Rather silly arguement with respect to asset forfiture by illegals, the assets that need to be forfeited are those of our fellow Americans who HIRE illegals.

Remove the cause of illegal immigration by destroying the culture of hiring illegals and they will export themselves.

I would enforce the current laws against employers who hire illegals with extreme prejudice. But we need to attack both sides of the invasion equation... The illegals need to be treated as such.

What's silly about that?

[Sabertooth]

How about we seize the assets of BOTH the employers and the illegals?

The premise on which I'm advocating asset forfeiture for illegals is that we can define all of their assets as being illegal proceeds. I'm for strict enforcement against rogue employers, but can we apply the same "criminal enterprise" premise to them?

[Sabertooth]

Our " border patrol " is a joke..it is fashioned as an open border policy by this administration .

Suggestion for new Republican slogan:

The Rule of Law
The GOP Pretends Louder

[Dog Gone]

What would you do about the fact that this would shut down the construction industry, highway repair, and agriculture, as well as hotels and restaurants all over the country?

[Billy_bob_bob]

Well, let us consider the case where you get caught with one pot plant growing on your property. The government will seize your home, your bank accounts, your cars, your furniture and everything else that you own. Then, without money, you get to go and hire a lawyer and prove to the government that you didn't get all of your possessions by selling drugs.

Now, since our government sees fit to treat us peons like this over something as minor as a single pot plant, don't you think it is appropriate for the government to use this tactic against employers who hire illegals? Aren't they choosing to be making their money in a criminal enterprise by hiring illegals? Sounds to me like these employers just might be in violation of RICO statutes.

[Sabertooth]

What would you do about the fact that this would shut down the construction industry, highway repair, and agriculture, as well as hotels and restaurants all over the country?

Rub my hands and cackle as the welfare rolls shrank.

Once they're empty, we can make up for any shortfalls by adjusting legal immigration.

[Billy_bob_bob]

"The rule of Law: The GOP pretends harder!"

Oh man, don't ever forget the old adage "truth purchases hatred". The Bushies are going to flaming you but good now. Hope you brought your asbestos undies!

[Sabertooth]

Now, since our government sees fit to treat us peons like this over something as minor as a single pot plant, don't you think it is appropriate for the government to use this tactic against employers who hire illegals?

Your analogy is appropriate, but I feel much of the government's seizure policies in the drug war are excessive and wrong, so I'd be disinclined to pursue that principle against the employers of illegals... at least as a matter of general policy.

However, more finely-tuned asset forfeiture policies both against egregious illegal employers and drug kingpins would be welcome improvements.

[Billy_bob_bob]

I'll settle for aggressive implementation of the RICO laws against these employers.

[Sabertooth]

The Bushies are going to flaming you but good now.

You talking about the "Protest too much" Brigade?

Funny what reflexes a touched nerve will jerk.

[Sabertooth]

Thanks for the bump... yeah, I wrote it.